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Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:36 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Having ground rules that stipulate that 4-8 members per year must be elected is a big part of this problem. There should be no set quota. If only a couple of guys are worthy in a certain year, so be it. Having so many guys getting in every year essentially guarantees it will end up watered down.
Yuuuup. The minimum doesn’t work well but I guess a presentation with 1-2 guys isn’t super viable either. It’s never going to be perfect though so whatever.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:49 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Strong words from the most overrated player in NFL history
Deion Sanders turned into Brett Favre?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:51 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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4-8 members per year must be elected
This part is why I can't take the Pro Football HOF seriously.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:06 am to RLDSC FAN
He's kinda got a point when they're putting refs in now. If they want to do a side wing for "contributors" then I'd do that for refs/media - to me the Hall should be players and coaches.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:00 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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who here does not deserve it?
At least post the link. Once you get past the clear first ballots of the latest generation, more "meh" entries really start to appear.
LINK
Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:30 am to Horsemeat
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If they want to do a side wing for "contributors" then I'd do that for refs/media - to me the Hall should be players and coaches.
Don’t they do that already?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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But 10 years is frankly enough on the ballot...it ensures it's the people WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED YOU PLAY voting and not some NFL Films voter who is entranced by John Facenda.
This is dumb. So Don Coryell shouldn’t go in because he coached before any of you were born even though he changed the way the sport is played ?
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
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“It’s people that change the game, that’s what the Hall of Fame is,” he said. “Not ‘I played good, I had a good little run, I gave you 3-4 good years.’ No, game changers.”
Tony Boselli is a perfect example. He didn't even play 100 games.
May have been really, really good for those 91 games, but that is simply not enough of a body of work for the HOF.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:52 pm to McMillan
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So Don Coryell shouldn’t go in because he coached before any of you were born even though he changed the way the sport is played ?
If he was that amazing, he’d be in before young folks ever had a chance to care.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
he isn't exactly wrong, but he's also not totally correct either...
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:54 am to McMillan
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But 10 years is frankly enough on the ballot...it ensures it's the people WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED YOU PLAY voting and not some NFL Films voter who is entranced by John Facenda.
This is dumb. So Don Coryell shouldn’t go in because he coached before any of you were born even though he changed the way the sport is played ?
Not sure what you're saying here.
But yeah he was judged by his peers and didn't get in...and shouldn't be judged by people who weren't even born while he coached.
NFL Films is no way to vote in players and coaches. They should only be judged by peers. That's why 10 years is enough. Second generation shouldn't be voting in players and coaches they never saw play or coach.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 2:21 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:01 am to Ag Zwin
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May have been really, really good for those 91 games, but that is simply not enough of a body of work for the HOF.
Body of work is ovverated. That's what got Curtis Martin in the Hall.
Deion is saying it should be about transcendence.
That's why Gayle Sayers is in the Hall with such a short career..Boselli...
Its not about racking up yards or catches over a long career. Were you the best at your position while you played?
NFL Hall shouldn't be just a career achievement award.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 2:02 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:53 am to RLDSC FAN
He’s a prick, but he’s not necessarily wrong.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:48 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Body of work is ovverated. That's what got Curtis Martin in the Hall.
Deion is saying it should be about transcendence.
That's why Gayle Sayers is in the Hall with such a short career..Boselli...
Its not about racking up yards or catches over a long career. Were you the best at your position while you played?
NFL Hall shouldn't be just a career achievement award.
Curtis Martin is 6th in rushing yards and 10th in rushing ypg in front of guys like OJ, Campbell, Emmitt, Dorsett, Faulk, Sayers, and LT. He was better than just a stat compiler.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:52 am to RLDSC FAN
Deion should realize that fans don't give a shite about the football HOF fame anyway
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:09 pm to Scruffy
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If it took you 15-20 years to get in, you really don’t deserve to be in the HoF. Can’t disagree with you there
Ray Guy.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:29 pm to Wayne Campbell
Zach Thomas should have been in years ago. Best ILBer of the 90s (yes, better than the Pilejumper).
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:05 pm to Scruffy
quote:Johnny Robinson took over 40 years and he is in the top percentile of hall of famers
If it took you 15-20 years to get in, you really don’t deserve to be in the HoF. Can’t disagree with you there.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:51 pm to lsupride87
Ken Riley is still waiting and he has 60plus INTs
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