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Alabama posters: why did Walker County stay democrat so much longer than rest of state?
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:27 pm
I’m looking at old election results by state, and just noticed something that perked my interest
Walker county alabama (Jasper) was MUCH more loyal to democrats than surrounding counties, even though the demographics of the county were similar
For example, it voted for Michael Dukakis in 1988 despite the state being a blowout. Clinton won the county in landslides in 90s. Gore only lost by 6
Present day it is heavily R now, but it took a lot longer to switch than other white counties in alabama
Is there an explanation for why the whites of Walker county stuck with dems longer?
Walker county alabama (Jasper) was MUCH more loyal to democrats than surrounding counties, even though the demographics of the county were similar
For example, it voted for Michael Dukakis in 1988 despite the state being a blowout. Clinton won the county in landslides in 90s. Gore only lost by 6
Present day it is heavily R now, but it took a lot longer to switch than other white counties in alabama
Is there an explanation for why the whites of Walker county stuck with dems longer?
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Alabama posters: why did Walker County stay democrat so much longer than rest of state?
There's a lot of druggies and riff raff up there...in other words, typical Dem voters!
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I would guess a bunch of folks were union with the mines, rail roads, truck lines etc and voted that way
Poorer demographics in that county too
Poorer demographics in that county too
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:youre such a racist man. What does skin color have to do with it
Present day it is heavily R now, but it took a lot longer to switch than other white counties in alabama
Is there an explanation for why the whites of Walker county stuck with dems longer?
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Isn’t there a Democrat you should be prostituting yourself to?
Walker county is extremely corrupt, so naturally they tend to support democrats
Walker county is extremely corrupt, so naturally they tend to support democrats
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Your referring to a time when the coal mines was its bread&butter. The Drummond’s pretty much owned the county, still do to a degree. But the old Democratic Party back then is nothing like it is now. At that time most residents in the county was considered Southern Democrat’s. They had morals unlike the democrat/socialist party of today. That’s why they no longer vote that way.
In that era there wasn’t to much difference between the two parties. They had their differences on a few issues but both party’s was more patriotic and was proud Americans.
In that era there wasn’t to much difference between the two parties. They had their differences on a few issues but both party’s was more patriotic and was proud Americans.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Alabama posters: why did Walker County stay democrat so much longer than rest of state?
Would imagine the mining industry, unions etc. up there
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:16 pm to HailToTheChiz
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the mines
Many lived in the mining camps. Very poor. The mines owned the shack they were allowed to live in, and the company store they could charge beans and flour against their wages to feed their families.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Dont think I know this contemporaneously; but..
When Alabama seceded prior to the US Civil War Winston County declared they would not be a part of that secession. they declared Winston County to be known as the "Free State of Winston" at the time.
Seems I heard that they never put together all the adequate legalities required to be a part of Alabama again.
I don't know if that is why they supported Democrats so long, but I believe their history likely supplies hints that this is it.
I went to family decoration there when I was a kid. Deep deep forest, Bankhead Forest.
There were supposedly witches who would fulfill witchcraft or fortune tellers.
The land was beautiful. Waterfalls, creeks, and woods...
Might want to look up Free State of Winston.
"The informal Republic of Winston, or Free State of Winston, an area encompassing the present-day Winston, Cullman and Blount counties of Alabama, was one of several places in the Confederate States of America where disaffection during the American Civil War was strong."
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"Did Winston County secede from Alabama?
During the secession crisis, Unionists in Winston County declared their right to secede from Alabama; much as the state seceded from the Union."
When Alabama seceded prior to the US Civil War Winston County declared they would not be a part of that secession. they declared Winston County to be known as the "Free State of Winston" at the time.
Seems I heard that they never put together all the adequate legalities required to be a part of Alabama again.
I don't know if that is why they supported Democrats so long, but I believe their history likely supplies hints that this is it.
I went to family decoration there when I was a kid. Deep deep forest, Bankhead Forest.
There were supposedly witches who would fulfill witchcraft or fortune tellers.
The land was beautiful. Waterfalls, creeks, and woods...
Might want to look up Free State of Winston.
"The informal Republic of Winston, or Free State of Winston, an area encompassing the present-day Winston, Cullman and Blount counties of Alabama, was one of several places in the Confederate States of America where disaffection during the American Civil War was strong."
AND
"Did Winston County secede from Alabama?
During the secession crisis, Unionists in Winston County declared their right to secede from Alabama; much as the state seceded from the Union."
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It isn’t just Walker. There were a ton of white, yellow dog Dems in north Alabama, especially in the TVA areas. It was very slow to switch over. Obama took care of that.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:47 pm to ChexMix
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youre such a racist man. What does skin color have to do with it
I don't know anything about Walker County, but it seems as though he's saying the opposite...that skin color doesn't have anything to do with it...as evidenced by the fact that it was different than other counties with similar demographics.
I find it interesting how easily people can comprehend things completely backwards because of their emotions.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:51 pm to 1loyalbamafan
In the deep dark hills of East Walker County....
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You of all people are asking why democrats remained in contol?
Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:40 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Look into the 1st Ala Union Cavalry. Walker & Winston Counties supplied many of the troops.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Keep your cuckass bitch nose out of my native homeland’s past.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I’m looking at old election results by state
Ok.
Not really MY idea of entertainment, but you do you.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:10 pm to SloaneRanger
Rural counties in the south turned red big 2000 and then again 2016
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:34 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Winston, Walker, Marion, Fayette, Franklin, and pretty much the rest of North Alabama (and Conecuh County from South Alabama) voted against secession. They were all "Jackson Democrats" who believed in the Union and didn't want to participate in "The rich man's cotton war". The representative from Fayette refused to sign the articles of secession at the constitutional convention and many from those counties served the Union in the 1st AL Cav.
There's a great book on it called "Torries of the Hills" by Wesley Thompson
Anyway, to answer OP: It's unions. The mining industry dominates Walker
There's a great book on it called "Torries of the Hills" by Wesley Thompson
Anyway, to answer OP: It's unions. The mining industry dominates Walker
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:45 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
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The representative from Fayette refused to sign the articles of secession at the constitutional convention and many from those counties served the Union in the 1st AL Cav.
Can confirm many of my ancestors fought in the 1st Al Cav they are buried on our family farm. With headstones that indicate they did so.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:51 pm to hwyman108
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But the old Democratic Party back then is nothing like it is now.
This.
Former Alabama Governor Fob James was Alabama’s version of Donald Trump — a politically incorrect businessman who ran against the reigning political establishment in Montgomery. Yet when first elected in 1978, James was a Democrat. It wasn’t until 1994 and James’ 2nd gubernatorial campaign that James ran (and won) as a Republican candidate.
Likewise, Richard Shelby was elected to the Senate in 1986 as a Democrat. Shelby himself did not switch party allegiance to the Republicans until 1994. The differences between the two parties was not as stark as we see today.
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