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Will Trump be able to take an off ramp on vaccines?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:34 pm
LINK Trump AK rally
Why is Trump still, to this day, pimping operation warp speed after everything we know about the jabs, and now especially after Debbie Birx admitted to lying to the task force and what Scott Atlas has disclosed about the disfunction of Mike Pence, Birx, and Fauci led task force.
I'd be willing to give Trump a pass on all this if he would try to let it go and admit these things don't work, as I do believe he meant the best, but feel he was hoodwinked by some bad people and doesn't want to admit it. But to continue on bragging about these poison shots? Not sure how he backs away.
If he does end up facing DeSantis, he better have a plan to off ramp this thing, because something tells me DeSantis is going to hit him from the right on this subject the more we learn.
Why is Trump still, to this day, pimping operation warp speed after everything we know about the jabs, and now especially after Debbie Birx admitted to lying to the task force and what Scott Atlas has disclosed about the disfunction of Mike Pence, Birx, and Fauci led task force.
I'd be willing to give Trump a pass on all this if he would try to let it go and admit these things don't work, as I do believe he meant the best, but feel he was hoodwinked by some bad people and doesn't want to admit it. But to continue on bragging about these poison shots? Not sure how he backs away.
If he does end up facing DeSantis, he better have a plan to off ramp this thing, because something tells me DeSantis is going to hit him from the right on this subject the more we learn.
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:36 pm to burger bearcat
Yea trump needs to find an off ramp for this shite.
It’s a loser among his base and if big dick Ron hits him on it, it will dent his base badly.
It’s a loser among his base and if big dick Ron hits him on it, it will dent his base badly.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:37 pm to burger bearcat
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Will Trump be able to take an off ramp on vaccines?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:38 pm to burger bearcat
Maybe he will quit mentioning it but he loves reminding the POS leftists and the media that he got the vaccine rolling. He will never admit he was wrong about them though.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:49 pm to burger bearcat
Nah, Trump dis what he had to do at the time and, IMO per his natural inclinations, sought to produce what was deemed at the time to be the most effective and successful creation and production of the vaccines amongst the worldwide community. Without utilizing that perfect 20/20 hindsight that we all seem so fond of at this much later stage in the game, i.e. utilizing the facts, considerations and circumstances on the ground at the time, he is correct in saying that he did do a hell of a job quarterbacking that particular situation, again, at the time. He ain’t exactly going around here lately promoting the effectiveness of the vaccines, but rather that he did as well as could be expected with the specific circumstances in the moment. It would be very poor form to now retroactively declare that in fact he made all the wrong moves, as opposed to the opposite.
He’s just fine on it, and any efforts to use that precious 20/20 hindsight will be met with net negative consequences.
ETA…..Also, to now come out and vehemently oppose the left’s own insistence that the vaccines make it safer to go about your business out in the public realm would be to promote the idea that “oh, well then maybe we do need to consider those same stringent responses utilized during the 2020 election” thus opening the door for the same exact shenanigans in that last election.
He’s just fine on it, and any efforts to use that precious 20/20 hindsight will be met with net negative consequences.
ETA…..Also, to now come out and vehemently oppose the left’s own insistence that the vaccines make it safer to go about your business out in the public realm would be to promote the idea that “oh, well then maybe we do need to consider those same stringent responses utilized during the 2020 election” thus opening the door for the same exact shenanigans in that last election.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:59 pm to davyjones
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davyjones
Dude. That is some serious sugar coating. I'm not trying to grind an axe here, even willing to give him somewhat of a pass and the benefit of the doubt on this whole thing (honestly probably more than I should). But to continue to come out and brag about and pimp this shite? When he knows it's a loser with his base (he even acknowledges it here). Let's just admit, this is Trump simply refusing to acknowledge it was a failure, and he trusted the wrong people and he wants to continue double downing on these things.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:59 pm to burger bearcat
I really don’t understand how people can’t separate A) development/support of a vaccine and B) FORCING the vaccine on people by either executive fiat or using the heavy hand of the federal government to threaten the livelihood of people who might choose not to take the shot.
Trump - A
Biden - B
What’s the issue here?
Trump - A
Biden - B
What’s the issue here?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:00 pm to burger bearcat
Good question. DeSantis does cite statistics of vax effectiveness. Some where in this video
I wonder if Trump looks at the statistics now that he is out. Or was that Pence's job-which Pence farmed out to his leftist aide. Trump is proud as well as Pence because they used Walter Reed and fast tracked it.
Trump can still be proud of that and tell the vax statistics.
In the video above Ron clearly sees the media is evil. He has to view J6th as the set up it was-he isn't stupid.
Yet he seems to be covertly using J6th to diss Trump from a far with the oldest trick in the book. False humility of making it look like his ready for ron wants him to run and he isn't even in the fight yet when he is...
Both Trump and DeSantis have a lot to answer to. Number one being how the swamp can be fought. And if Ron can tell the turtle caucus supporting him to frick off with their dem policies.
And Trump-how will he have a cabinet that has no moles. And the vax. Ron got the vax and boosters. Do he and Trump still say the vax works?
Here is the DeSantis video set to Ron on covid. He pushed the vax but was the most reasonable Governor.
I wonder if Trump looks at the statistics now that he is out. Or was that Pence's job-which Pence farmed out to his leftist aide. Trump is proud as well as Pence because they used Walter Reed and fast tracked it.
Trump can still be proud of that and tell the vax statistics.
In the video above Ron clearly sees the media is evil. He has to view J6th as the set up it was-he isn't stupid.
Yet he seems to be covertly using J6th to diss Trump from a far with the oldest trick in the book. False humility of making it look like his ready for ron wants him to run and he isn't even in the fight yet when he is...
Both Trump and DeSantis have a lot to answer to. Number one being how the swamp can be fought. And if Ron can tell the turtle caucus supporting him to frick off with their dem policies.
And Trump-how will he have a cabinet that has no moles. And the vax. Ron got the vax and boosters. Do he and Trump still say the vax works?
Here is the DeSantis video set to Ron on covid. He pushed the vax but was the most reasonable Governor.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:00 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Trump - A
Because they are killing people. And he took away the liability on the manufactures.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:16 pm to Big4SALTbro
Why would he? Everyone in his base will still vote for him if he touts it. That will not change. It's to reach out and across for more votes. He's got my vote regardless.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:20 pm to burger bearcat
quote:Because CV19, prior to variants, was both more virulent and more heavily impacted by the vax. The vax was the singular way to move us away from fear porn and economic shutdowns. It was a totally different situation.
Why is Trump still, to this day, pimping operation warp speed
Natural selection in a novel viral course invariably leads to variants with lower virulence, greater contagiousness/transmissibility, and lowered vax efficacy. That is exactly what we've seen with SARS-CoV-2. BA.4 and BA.5 are easier to catch, less serious when contracted, and not effected much by the current vax.
There is no need for business or social shutdown with BA.5. If you catch it, immunity conveyed is far greater than with any vax. It's simply a different equation now.
Warp Speed was a fantastic effort, and necessary at the time. It was Trump's recovery following the CDC's CV19 test fiasco, aka the single greatest medical blunder in American history. Warp Speed was a tremendous accomplishment.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:21 pm to burger bearcat
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Because they are killing people. And he took away the liability on the manufactures.
This, all fricking day.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:25 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Because they are killing people. And he took away the liability on the manufactures.
This, all fricking day.
Trump took away the liability? Hasn't this been a thing for a long time regarding vaccines?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:26 pm to burger bearcat
Trump also needs to apologize for all the government money spent to pay people not to work. The after effects of that are causing an economic disaster.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:30 pm to Doctor Strangelove
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Trump also needs to apologize for all the government money spent to pay people not to work. The after effects of that are causing an economic disaster.
Trump was put into a no win situation. You people need to cut him some slack on this. I doubt BDR woulda dealt with a bio weapon being released any better.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:35 pm to burger bearcat
I don’t think you’ve got an axe to grind, fair observations. And opinions, that’s the key. I do think one of our biggest faults/flaws is judging whoever the case may be using strictly hindsight, and I just don’t see the fairness of that. And I don’t see the usefulness of Trump making some specific and direct effort to make an event of an announcement like that, that it was a failure hence his efforts were a failure. What’s the point? And just out of curiosity, what would he need to say, somewhat specifically?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:39 pm to Pookers
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Trump took away the liability? Hasn't this been a thing for a long time regarding vaccines?
Ask the people who were forced to take it, or fired over not taking it.
I never took it because, it's not a vaccine which is why, these companies, fauci and brix should be held liable for advertising these as "vaccines".
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:42 pm to burger bearcat
Warp speed was a great success and highlights the massive bureaucracy that inhibits action in our government. The effectiveness or lack thereof of the vaccine is only a small part of that and is up to the individual to decide - that's been his stance all along. I dont think he needs to stray from that. Its not like Dems are going to start slamming the vaccines.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:45 pm to burger bearcat
Is there anyone else out there who sees it like I do:
Trump should get massive credit for the vaccine and probably saving a million lives. Imagine if Delta had hit without a vaccine.
It never would have gotten done under Brandon.
Trump should get massive credit for the vaccine and probably saving a million lives. Imagine if Delta had hit without a vaccine.
It never would have gotten done under Brandon.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:47 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Ask the people who were forced to take it, or fired over not taking it.
I never took it because, it's not a vaccine which is why, these companies, fauci and brix should be held liable for advertising these as "vaccines".
Trump didn't force anybody to take shite. That is on Pedo Peter.
Editing to add:
1) Rushed vaccines
2) infinite lockdowns
Pick one.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:50 pm
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