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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:57 am to GoblinGoodies
Starting out of college as a project coordinator, 60k probably.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Do accounting, learn how to run the business and then you can own it instead of working for it.
This is great advice if you want to be an accountant at a construction company
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:58 am to EA6B
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Learn everything you can about construction, start your own company, and you can hire a accountant.
Accountants are a lot more expensive than laborers
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:59 am to jamboybarry
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This is great advice if you want to be an accountant at a construction company
Most people that do accounting are pencil necked no risk nerds, for sure.
The ones that are not have a good chance to be successful. If you know construction and the numbers behind it you have a huge lead on your competition
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:02 pm to GoblinGoodies
I have the BS Cons degree and especially with your pipefitter real world experience, you could do great. Project Manager with only a few years experience are easily over $100k & up.
Sky's the limit, especially if you add an MBA on top of that.
Sky's the limit, especially if you add an MBA on top of that.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:03 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Most people that do accounting are pencil necked no risk nerds, for sure.
Um, yeah
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The ones that are not have a good chance to be successful. If you know construction and the numbers behind it you have a huge lead on your competition
It’s extremely rare to have a non operations person heading a construction company.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:04 pm to jamboybarry
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It’s extremely rare to have a non operations person heading a construction company.
I personally know 3. It's also rare for anyone to head a construction company and you have selection bias.
This kid is interested in and already working in the construction part. Learning the economics behind the business seperates him from other would be project managers.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:05 pm to GoblinGoodies
Mates I was on a job out in Spokane this week and those baws were MAGA AF. 
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I personally know 3
Cool but anecdotes =\=trend
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It's also rare for anyone to head a construction company and you have selection bias.
Ok?
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This kid is interested in and already working in the construction part. Learning the economics behind the business seperates him from other would be project managers.
The easiest path to leadership is through operations or preconstruction (this is rarer than ops but more likely than business side). This is a fact in commercial
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:10 pm to jamboybarry
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The easiest path to leadership is through operations or preconstruction (this is rarer than ops but more likely than business side). This is a fact in commercial
I don't think you understand, he can still be in operations. That's what I'm saying go do operations if that's what interests him, but if he can go run a project at 25 and have a way deeper understanding of the economics of the project than his peers he'll have opportunity for advancement.
Construction management is fine, it's a good degree. But my personal opinion is getting a degree industry focused is limiting because you may decide at 30 you hate it but you're kind of screwed. I think the same way about petroleum engineering, all your eggs in one basket. Additionally, the CM degree hit alot of shite 6 inches deep and 100 yards wide, again, nothing wrong with that but becoming an expert on something has value.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:11 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
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got into the wrong business
Right? I should have become a college football coach.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't think you understand
Oh, but I do child. Look up the heads of Clark and Turner to get your answer. Same principle applies at mid-size and smaller. I’ve worked for publicly traded EPC firms and $200 million local GC’s. All lead by Ops folks
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That's what I'm saying go do operations if that's what interests him, but if he can go run a project at 25 and have a way deeper understanding of the economics of the project than his peers he'll have opportunity for advancement.
Yeah you don’t understand. No 25 year old with an accounting degree is running a project of any substantial value.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That's what I'm saying go do operations if that's what interests him,
You literally told him to go into accounting in your first post. They gonna let a 25 year old accountant run a project?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:15 pm to GoblinGoodies
You are doing great by having the hands on experience to start. Get that CM degree and just see what opens up as you graduate. Lot's of good jobs out there as long as oil and gas/petro-chem stays viable. If you are planning to stay in the Lake Charles area you will do well.
If Oil crashes, you will still have some good jobs out there, just will be a lot more competition and probably not as good of a salary.
If Oil crashes, you will still have some good jobs out there, just will be a lot more competition and probably not as good of a salary.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:15 pm to jamboybarry
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Oh, but I do child
There we go. Roger ad hominems.
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Same principle applies at mid-size and smaller. I’ve worked for publicly traded EPC firms and $200 million local GC’s. All lead by Ops folks
Calls out anecdotes, immediately uses an anecdote.
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No 25 year old with an accounting degree is running a project of any substantial value.
Hardly any 25 year olds independent of degree are, but the point of my comment was differentiating from your peers, which if you took a second to read instead of melt you would've understood.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:17 pm to IAmNERD
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Right? I should have become a college football coach.
Definitely you even get paid 7 million to walk away after 2 years of sucking
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:27 pm to GoblinGoodies
Bring it up to Huntsville, Alabama. They're on a construction binge, both federally and privately there. They need good brains paired with some hands that have seen real work in the field.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:30 pm to GoblinGoodies
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LSU Construction Management Degree?
The bawest of all baw degrees in the history of baw.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:32 pm to GoblinGoodies
Depending on the company and what kind of work you do, starting pay is between 46k and 70k/year. That can go up considerably with OT. Typically, residential pays the least and industrial pays the most, but also requires the most OT. I worked nearly 80hrs/week consistently in industrial CM. I cleared 6 figures doing it, but it was miserable.
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