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Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:50 am to David_DJS
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There are more ways to being immune than being a billionaire. When you don't care a whole lot about money, you can be immune. I think I saw on this board a few days ago that DeSantis's net worth is less than $400K. For a guy with his abilities and experience, if the less than $400K is accurate - it makes it seem like he's not overly motivated by money.
You and me included would secure the financial security of our kids and grandkids future for a “simple favor”. That’s how it starts. And it gets to 99% of those that go to Washington. The fact Trump is a billionaire is the reason he could blow them off. Not only does he not want the money. It’s irrelevant to him. He and his future generations are already set. That’s the difference
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:10 am to BoarEd
There’s an effort by the left to use DeSantis to separate Trump supporters from Trump.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:14 am to David_DJS
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There are more ways to being immune than being a billionaire. When you don't care a whole lot about money, you can be immune. I think I saw on this board a few days ago that DeSantis's net worth is less than $400K. For a guy with his abilities and experience, if the less than $400K is accurate - it makes it seem like he's not overly motivated by money.
Yes, but you have to be rich and have the network Trump has to defend yourself and your family when they come after you.
Does DeSantis have the family empire Trump has to go to war with the establishment?
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:23 am to davyjones
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Might you provide even just a couple three reasons why Ron is a stronger candidate than Don at this point?
1. Trump was pro-lockdow/Fauci, BDR was pro-freedom/anti-Fauci
2. DeSantis can actually articulate his positions well, and would actually destroy Biden in a debate unlike Trump (who couldn't even get the job done with the Hunter laptop story)
3. Doesn't step on rake or spend every waking hour on twitter
Bonus: He's not old as shite and likely inevitably in cognitive decline like Trump. If Brandon actually survives this term and runs again, the contrast between he and DeSantis would be amazing.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:31 am to Chef Curry
quote:The intelligent approach!
Proudly voted for Trump twice but I would rather see DeSantis run. He’ll be equivalent policy wise and he’ll also slap down the gaslight media. Biggest difference is that he won’t get caught up in stupid Twitter wars and he also won’t give the gaslight media “gotcha” sound bites.
I, too voted for Trump, and will again if he's the choice for the general election, but all the juvenile drama did nothing but keep his administration in turmoil!
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:38 am to BoarEd
If DeSantis runs, I’m voting for him 100 times out of 100.
He’s a professional Trump that knows when to stfu. Love what Trump did but his mouth has caused so much division.
He’s a professional Trump that knows when to stfu. Love what Trump did but his mouth has caused so much division.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:55 am to Lou Pai
Yeah those are the same broad points that are made any time someone elaborates on the subject. Just the same old tired talking points, all due respect.
Trump wasn’t pro-lockdown, in fact he’s the very one who made it possible for Desantis to handle his state however he saw fit, same with all the states. As for the rest of it, I just don’t see it that way, but we’ll just leave it at reasonable minds can differ.
Trump wasn’t pro-lockdown, in fact he’s the very one who made it possible for Desantis to handle his state however he saw fit, same with all the states. As for the rest of it, I just don’t see it that way, but we’ll just leave it at reasonable minds can differ.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:03 am to davyjones
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As for the rest of it, I just don’t see it that way, but we’ll just leave it at reasonable minds can differ.
Look at it this way:
There is a 100% chance that DeSantis crushes Biden or whatever jackwagon candidate the Dems might come up with. They got no one on their bench.
There is at best a 50% or less chance that Trump can win a reelection
With DeSantis we got someone who can govern and advance MAGA policies. Trump cannot and will not be allowed to govern and it will four more years of chaos while the country drifts further into decline.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:13 am to Fun Bunch
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Desantis would accomplish x1000 times more. He’s smarter, more principled, and a much better politician c
Yet no one would be speaking of him if it weren't for Trump.
Trump endorsement got him the position he's in. Trumps attitude towards DC gave Desantis the blueprint. Yes, Trump needs to adjust his "mean tweets" to help himself out with the weak-minded/knee'd like you, but let's not think people won't notice if Desantis bites the hand that got him where he is now.
Also, let's not forget Desantis has a pro-Conservative legislature that isn't afraid to get him what he needs to look good. He won't have that in DC unless Trump gets a no holds barred 4yrs cleaning house, before Desantis gets there.
Desantis in TX wouldn't be the same as he would be in FL, because looks like the TX republicans in the legislature aren't as Conservative tough as the FL ones are.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:16 am to 14&Counting
I saw it as the left and MSM manufactured the vast majority of Trump’s difficulties while President, which if so why wouldn’t it logically follow that they will gleefully utilize the same tactics with Desantis? In which case it would come down to who’s the best of those available in ‘24 to handle all that junk. Ideally Trump would win in ‘24 then Desantis would be that person who best handles it in ‘28, seeing as how obviously Trump would no longer be “available” at that time.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:19 am to davyjones
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So on which reliable sources of info do you base these assertions?
The previous 2 elections where he lost the popular vote might be a start. January 6 certainly does not help his chances either.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:21 am to BoarEd
I voted orange man. I miss orange man. I would vote orange man if he was the nominee.
But let's not act like a would be 82 year old after 4 more years is a better idea than a young energetic BDR for 8 years.
Trump's age shows sometimes when he rabbit trails against some straw man point the media makes in press conferences.
Ron just says bullshite and moves on.
But let's not act like a would be 82 year old after 4 more years is a better idea than a young energetic BDR for 8 years.
Trump's age shows sometimes when he rabbit trails against some straw man point the media makes in press conferences.
Ron just says bullshite and moves on.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:23 am to coachcrisp
the reality is that DeSantis supporters are largely low key on this board, along the lines of "I prefer DeSantis but I'm good with Trump let's see what happens."
The fact that there are a handful of Trump-obsessed posters working overtime to portray DeSantis supporters as trolls, plants, etc. tells you everything you need to know about their fears of DeSantis.
Which is stupid. If only one runs, fine. If both do, let the best guy win and let's decide it on merit. It also shows what those of us who like DeSantis have said - no way Trump loyalists allow a fair fight. They're already littering the board with ridiculous claims and attacks anytime someone mentions liking DeSantis.
The fact that there are a handful of Trump-obsessed posters working overtime to portray DeSantis supporters as trolls, plants, etc. tells you everything you need to know about their fears of DeSantis.
Which is stupid. If only one runs, fine. If both do, let the best guy win and let's decide it on merit. It also shows what those of us who like DeSantis have said - no way Trump loyalists allow a fair fight. They're already littering the board with ridiculous claims and attacks anytime someone mentions liking DeSantis.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:25 am to Powerman
As you well know, he won one of those last two by outmaneuvering and out-energizing the opponent using the rules of the game as it’s actually played. Popular vote means nothing to the person who secures the necessary electoral votes.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:25 am to davyjones
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I saw it as the left and MSM manufactured the vast majority of Trump’s difficulties while President, which if so why wouldn’t it logically follow that they will gleefully utilize the same tactics with Desantis? In which case it would come down to who’s the best of those available in ‘24? Ideally Trump would win in ‘24 then Desantis would be that person who best handles it in ‘28, seeing as how obviously Trump would no longer be “available” at that time.
Trump was an easy target and the trolls wrote themselves. You really cannot sling mud at DeSantis the same way you could easily do at Trump. Regardless, the Dems will do what they always do only this time everyone sees through that shite and is hip to the game.
.....and why does everyone assume a Trump win in '24 guarantees a DeSantis win in 2028? That is the dumbest fricking logic. DeSantis is the hot commodity right now and you have to strike it while its hot.
I look at this a lot like 2008 when everyone just assumed Hillary would get the nod. Yet you had the charismatic up and comer in Obama and all the donor class big money and party apparatus consolidated behind him. I see it playing out a lot like that for DeSantis. Trump has a lot of influence and power today but I think the money and support will line up behind DeSantis in a similar way.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:26 am to KAGTASTIC
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Yet no one would be speaking of him if it weren't for Trump.
This isn't a reason to vote for Trump, and I've not spent any time at all telling people they shouldn't back Trump and should instead support DeSantis. I probably lean that way, but for the time being there is no need for either "side" to get too worked up about it.
But, Trump paving the way doesn't mean we "owe" it to him. We don't owe any politician anything, including Trump. Supporting Trump should be based solely on the things Trump can do, not loyalty to the man. Looking at Trump's history as a guide for what he will do is fair, but this board regularly makes the case that we're somehow beholden to him.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:27 am to davyjones
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As you well know, he won one of those last two by outmaneuvering and out-energizing the opponent using the rules of the game as it’s actually played
Sure
So he beat one terrible politician and lost to another
He's not in prime position to make a run right now even though his supporters are pretty passionate
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:30 am to Lou Pai
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1. Trump was pro-lockdow/Fauci, BDR was pro-freedom/anti-Fauci
Liar. Trump did not over step the powers of the states.
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2. DeSantis can actually articulate his positions well, and would actually destroy Biden in a debate unlike Trump
Trump would take Biden as well.
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3. Doesn't step on rake or spend every waking hour on twitter
To get the message out, name any other way!
That's a hack take and you know it. The MSM will kill any message from Trump or DeSantis. They will take everything out of context. They will make shite up.
Trump did a damn GREAT job using Twitter to combat that.
How do I know that you ask? It's why they kicked him off it!
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Bonus: He's not old as shite
Age has ZERO to do with. How pathetic are you for even going there.
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likely inevitably in cognitive decline like Trump.
Shows ZERO signs of it.
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