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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:02 pm to
Edit: ALL the things that Ponchy & Amos said.

I do consulting at one in a different area.

What I will say is this:

bring any and all concerns to the administrator/social worker/DON ... do not hesitate

GO and visit ... DO NOT go at the same time every day NOR on the same day of the week ... rotate days and times (or if you go every day rotate the times)

Get to know the nurses and staff on different shifts.

If you're not happy with care provided, look for another facility but the grass isn't always greener

Don't be suckered in by appearances of a brand new facility or turned away from an older facility .. what matters is the staff

I've been consulting in the same facility for almost 15 years. I've seen some VERY GOOD NURSES/Staff .. and I've seen some that are there for a paycheck.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108356 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:04 pm to
There are two that're behind the Costco area that are ok. Don't be fooled by the nicer the place and the more you pay equals better care. The administrators at most nursing homes will drug the patients into submission as opposed to dealing with them & helping them.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:07 pm to
It will not be private pay. He really has no assets but a car.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:14 pm to
Ask how long the ED and DON have been working there. It makes all the difference
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Nursing home talk


we had several family members go through this

the worst places shared a tendency to restrict visitation hours, the ones with few restrictions on visitation hours were the better ones. most will limit it to 8pm cut off.

all of them had thieves working there who steal anything you bring in, the second you walk out and it is gone so dont bring them anything, not even fruit baskets because anything you leave gets stollen and taken away from them. most of them wont do a good job of doing their jobs keeping patients clean with clean rooms. we often found them in piss soaked sheets and sometimes covered in shite.

its not nice to think about, but even some of the better places were still bad, so you just try to avoid the worst ones and pay close attention to things. do not dismiss things as granny is just making shite up about being treated badly and left to sleep in shite all night.

if you can afford it its always better to pay for in home full time care but its not cheap and most of us cant do that.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted by greenbean
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:23 pm to
My neighbor works for State Attorney General and investigates nursing home complaints. He has horror story after horror story. He, and I agree, says he would rather go out with dignity at home.

Based on my family history, I'll probably be in the thick of Alzheimers in my early 80s, but otherwise physically healthy. I have instructed my wife and kids to either let me out in the woods or give me an overdose of whatever - rather than be put in a NH.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6840 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

It will not be private pay. He really has no assets but a car.


Good deal. Medicaid will run his bank balances for the last five years; any discrepancies or large balances will have to be explained. They’ll also check to see if he’s sold or transferred property in the last five years.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96870 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:31 pm to
Regular nursing home? My uncle was at Ollie Steele Burden the last few years of his life because he was dying of cancer and it made him a major fall risk. He was there until he ended up in hospice.

I also have a family friend who was at Whealdon Estates, an assisted living community not too far from Burden.


I was less impressed by the one on Florida near Sharp Rd (Greenhaven?).

One relative was there for a long time with minor problems at best but another moved there then died within a year in part because she had given up on life. Given that her mind was there but her body was failing her, I think the transition from being a shut-in with a condo to being in a nursing home destroyed her to where she gave up.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1047 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:34 pm to
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I'm sure you were an inconvenience to them when you were a baby.


A real issue we're facing now is increased life expectancy. This means you will often have retired people taking care of their elderly parents. When a family is considering skilled nursing, it's because they have reached the limits of how they can care for a person.

This is obviously beyond caring for a person who is mobile. When they require a lot of care, a hospital bed, bathrooms that accommodate a wheel chair, etc. it gets complicated to even hire someone to come to the house. It's insanely expensive, and you won't be immune to bad workers who will rob you. They'll just rob your house without supervision.

This is not the same as being in the physical prime of your twenties and caring for a 15 pound baby.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1047 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

A real issue we're facing now is increased life expectancy.


First sentence. Was not likely a huge issue 1000 years ago.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34030 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:51 pm to
Look into in home hospice first.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71767 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:52 pm to
Ollie Steele Burden Manor was decent in the late 1990s. That's about all I know.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10205 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:54 pm to
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I know a good place called Green Grove, but it’s a Retirement Community.


Thank you for clarifying. NOT a nursing home
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:04 pm to
Just placed my MIL in Sunrise assisted living in Metairie, LA.

Not BR but it looks pretty good so far, and we did just get there.
Posted by Alter2000
Member since May 2022
4 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:12 pm to
Ive managed homes around the area for over 15 years. Consider another option.

Private homes are Medicare factories for the owners. They’re terrific investments, especially during COVID, but truly scary, horrendous places for your loved ones.

Consider a pillow.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19318 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
I couldn’t care for my mom. She had a stroke which left her paralyzed on the left side also had dementia. I went through three homes before she passed. The number one thing I would suggest is get a camera. I seen so many residents being mistreated that didn’t have family. The camera will keep you up but it gives you a piece of mind. Oh and btw I had to get my on WiFi as the nursing home wouldn’t let me use theirs and it was worth every Penny
Posted by Alter2000
Member since May 2022
4 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:16 pm to
Also, look to see how much each home pays their CNAs and nurses. You can ask and they should tell you.

Go with whatever option pays the most. Anything under 15/HR for a CNA, and I’d avoid.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:41 pm to
I’m not in the BR area but about 1 1/2 hr or so away.
My in-laws are getting ready to make the move to an Assisted Living Facility.
When they got on “the list” the waiting period we were told would be 6 months to a year. It’s been 8 months.
Availability could be a issue depending on how soon your parent would need to make the move.
Hoping everything goes well for you and yours
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
18041 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Also, look to see how much each home pays their CNAs and nurses. You can ask and they should tell you. Go with whatever option pays the most. Anything under 15/HR for a CNA, and I’d avoid


Be careful with this. Some bad facilities pay a lot because they HAVE to to meet minimum standards. That doesn’t always mean they are good at their job. Good CNAS sometimes choose work environment over an extra dollar per hour.
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