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The word “chief” will no longer be used in reference to job titles in the SF school dist.

Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4260 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:03 am
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The word “chief” will no longer be used in reference to job titles in the San Francisco Unified School District in an effort, school officials said, to avoid the word’s connotation with Native Americans. A replacement term has not been determined.

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Looks like San Francisco needs another round of school board recalls.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68961 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:04 am to
I think I see the sun peeking out from behind the clouds of racism now.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29132 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:04 am to
quote:

A replacement term has not been determined.


In San Francisco I'm sure it will be head...
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
8841 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:04 am to
This ain’t it chief
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282189 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:07 am to
Poor natives are being written out of society.

Team mascots, now just regular words.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:07 am to
This is hilarious. I have a buddy that is about to bring a product to market with Chief in their branding. His marketing/brand consultant did a study to make sure it wasn't offensive to people. It was not.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
5767 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:19 am to
Lol it’s an English word used for years and was assigned to Natuve American leaders like it is for so many other titles. My goodness.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40874 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:24 am to
Isn't Chief a term the white man applied to native americans?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
21980 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:25 am to
quote:

A replacement term has not been determined.


They'll probably go with Fuhrer.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:25 am to
SF should focus on cleaning the human shite off of their sidewalks first.

When NOLA is cleaner than your city that's when you know you have a problem.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24238 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:26 am to
Whatever happened to considering intent. The word Chief in this context was never used to degrade or reduce anyone. I don’t fricking get it. Why is time even being spent on this? We’ve officially run out of real problems, apparently.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32073 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:28 am to
Damn those racist, Old English words from 1300 AD.

quote:

chief (adj.)

c. 1300, "highest in rank or power; most important or prominent; supreme, best, placed above the rest," from Old French chief "chief, principal, first" (10c., Modern French chef), from Vulgar Latin *capum (also source of Spanish and Portuguese cabo, Italian capo, Provençal cap), from Latin caput "head," also "leader, guide, chief person; summit; capital city" (from PIE root *kaput- "head").

chief (n.)

c. 1300, "head, leader, captain; the principal or most important part of anything;" from Old French chief "leader, ruler, head" of something, "capital city" (10c., Modern French chef), from Vulgar Latin *capum, from Latin caput "head," also "leader, chief person; summit; capital city" (from PIE root *kaput- "head"). Meaning "head of a clan" is from 1570s; later extended to headmen of Native American tribes (by 1713; William Penn, 1680s, called them kings). Commander-in-chief is attested from 1660s.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
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10529 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:29 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130390 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Isn't Chief a term the white man applied to native americans?



Where do you think the word came from? Do you think there were no tribal chiefs in Europe or Asia?
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:38 am to
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Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83355 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:40 am to
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To be replaced with Master.


Navy is really rayciss, they have the rank of Master Chief!
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60468 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:42 am to
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SF school dist
who gives a shite? like when they burn their own cities. Why should I care?
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3082 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:47 am to
Give me a frick'n break. What a bunch of sensitive pusses.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40874 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Do you think there were no tribal chiefs in Europe or Asia?


That is my point, I actually agree with you this time....
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38336 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Isn't Chief a term the white man applied to native americans?




Yep, and it predates Europen colonization of the Americas.

quote:

Definition: Chief (n.)

c. 1300, "head, leader, captain; the principal or most important part of anything;" from Old French chief "leader, ruler, head" of something, "capital city" (10c., Modern French chef), from Vulgar Latin *capum, from Latin caput "head," also "leader, chief person; summit; capital city" (from PIE root *kaput- "head"). Meaning "head of a clan" is from 1570s; later extended to American Indian tribes. Commander-in-chief attested from 1660s. [1]


https://www.ictinc.ca/blog/why-are-indigenous-leaders-called-chiefs

Not the first time this was proposed and also not usually embraced by Native Americans.

In the same article.

quote:

In October 2017 a school district board in Ontario passed a motion to remove “chief” from all job titles out of respect for Indigenous communities. The action was, according to a school district spokesperson, a proactive step towards reconciliation. There was a mixed reaction to the move but the most common response, from both Indigenous and non-Indigenous people, was confusion


Also

quote:

Chief Dr. Robert Joseph

What I found interesting is that the articles I read on the topic overlooked an obvious aspect that should have arisen as part of the discussion. Namely that “chief” is a European title. As explained in the definition above, the term was applied to American Indians. It is not an Indigenous word. How would the numerous specific cultures spread out across the vast landscape of what is now known as North America share a common term for their leader?
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