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re: Witnesses outside school begged officers to go inside while shooting going on
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:26 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:26 am to Homesick Tiger
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Some people put their safety second
I agree the world is full of stupid people. I would prolly do the same in that instance. However it is a stupid thing to do. Are there multiple shooters? Are there explosives? etc.... Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision. Cops are not superhuman crime fighters. Most of them have a C minus HS education level. I just think that the blame does not fall to them. They prolly have families. Scared of lawsuits and constantly worrying about defunding. Unless it was my kids school...I wouldnt run in blindly either.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:35 am to TideHater
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I agree the world is full of stupid people. I would prolly do the same in that instance. However it is a stupid thing to do. Are there multiple shooters? Are there explosives? etc.... Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision. Cops are not superhuman crime fighters. Most of them have a C minus HS education level. I just think that the blame does not fall to them. They prolly have families. Scared of lawsuits and constantly worrying about defunding. Unless it was my kids school...I wouldnt run in blindly either.
It’s not about being stupid. It’s about sitting outside of a building and not knowing if that next gunshot is for your child. I couldn’t live with myself if I sat outside and that next shot was for my daughter or son. Believe it or not, there are things worst than dying and living with that guilt is one. Is it tactically smart? No but it’s children that need you so you go.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:39 am to TideHater
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. Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision.
This doesn't make sense. So if the higher authority decides to rush in a live fire situation then it's okay even though as you say the cops aren't trained for that?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:15 am to TideHater
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However it is a stupid thing to do. Are there multiple shooters? Are there explosives? etc.... Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision. Cops are not superhuman crime fighters.
Anyone who sat outside of a school, while a shooter was inside popping off rounds, is a pussy. You can take your explosives and multiple shooters and shove them up your arse.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:08 am to TideHater
quote:and yet they frequently take in on themselves to pump unarmed suspects full of lead at the slightest provocation, then claim they feared for their personal safety
Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:10 am to TideHater
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Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision.
That used to be the case, but it isn't anymore. If there's an active shooter, we're supposed to make entry, hunt that person down, and kill them. We don't ask permission from a supervisor. We simply tell dispatch that we're making entry and go.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:21 am to TideHater
quote:That question was answered before cops even arrived on the scene. Single shooter. They even had his name. It would have been immediately verified by witnesses at the location, including cops who had exchanged fire with the murderer.
Are there multiple shooters?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:49 am to TideHater
quote:but one officer took it upon himself to bravely encounter and do what he could to end the violence.
I agree the world is full of stupid people. I would prolly do the same in that instance. However it is a stupid thing to do. Are there multiple shooters? Are there explosives? etc.... Police patrolmen are not trained to rush into a live fire situation. They are trained to set up and contain the situation until a higher authority makes a decision. Cops are not superhuman crime fighters. Most of them have a C minus HS education level. I just think that the blame does not fall to them. They prolly have families. Scared of lawsuits and constantly worrying about defunding. Unless it was my kids school...I wouldnt run in blindly either.
how many other lives did he possibly save?
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