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re: What gun restrictions would you tolerate?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:05 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:05 am to Eli Goldfinger
Here’s an idea.
Strict sentences for actual criminals who commit crimes with guns.
Wild idea punishing the actual law breakers.
Will never happen cuz racism.
Strict sentences for actual criminals who commit crimes with guns.
Wild idea punishing the actual law breakers.
Will never happen cuz racism.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:06 am to Eli Goldfinger
Whatever the constitution 2ndamendment restrictions say
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:12 am to Eli Goldfinger
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shooting ranges
Only poors shoot at shooting ranges
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:22 am to Eli Goldfinger
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What gun restrictions would you tolerate?
Two years ago left wing terrorist were burning down cities for months and the police did nothing to stop them. Can you imagine what they would have done to white neighborhoods if they knew the owners did not have guns. It is scary.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:28 am to DawgRebelinAL
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Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
So this seems to be the thing people are talking about.
So 18 is no longer an adult for other things? Really trying to understand how an 18 is going to be an adult/responsible for other things but not mature enough to buy a gun. 18yos do stupid things in cars, so they shouldn't be able to buy a car?
This is a serious question as I'm trying to understand this argument as I can't see the logic unless we officially move the adult age from 18 to 21.
What are 18-20yos mature enough to do w/o parents consent?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:37 am to Powerman
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Apparently a lot of people here are comfortable with the restrictions Trump signed into law
Well the bump stock ban is being challenged and is effectively legless anyway. Trump also signed HJ Res 40 which undid some petty gun-control attempt by Obama. Any comments on that or are you too stupid and dishonest?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:39 am to Eli Goldfinger
None. If a person can afford a tank, nuke or jet…. They should be able to spend their money as they see fit.
I also think taxes are about as unAmerican as it gets.
Fck the Feds
I also think taxes are about as unAmerican as it gets.
Fck the Feds
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:40 am to Eli Goldfinger
I’m not sure what part of “Shall not be infringed” you don’t understand.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
0. Haven't you learned yet? You give them idiots one inch and they will have all your guns before you know it.
Don't bend on a constitutional right.
Don't bend on a constitutional right.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:47 am to Eli Goldfinger
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While I generally side with AR owners, I can’t stand how they take over shooting ranges and make it a PITA for those of us who just want to shoot a few times to check our hunting rifle.
Poor Fudd. Bet you blame them for your 1911 stove piping too.
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I’m definitely not excited about new gun legislation as it’s a slippery slope, but I’m OK with requiring all gun transactions to go through an FFL holder. I suppose this would create a database of any guns bought which could be used against us.
Yeah you are. Dumb enough to go along with more restrictions until you are filling out a 4473 for a box of Remington Core-lokt.
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I think I would be OK with raising purchase age to 21. I think I would be OK with a waiting period.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
All of our freedoms stem from the second amendment. The ability to defend them with force is what gives them meaning.
Without the 2nd, we’d be like Canada.
They’d just seize your bank account, if you had some wrong ideas.
The one constant over the last 400 years is the ever increasing centralization of power in the state. And the publics direct and corresponding loss of liberty.
So yeah. Canada.
Without the 2nd, we’d be like Canada.
They’d just seize your bank account, if you had some wrong ideas.
The one constant over the last 400 years is the ever increasing centralization of power in the state. And the publics direct and corresponding loss of liberty.
So yeah. Canada.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 1:01 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:02 am to Powerman
quote:the displeasure at Trump's decision was widely available on this board.
So you should be super pissed at Trump right
You know you CAN disagree on things and still like someone's overall policies. ?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:40 am to Feelthebarn
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:49 am to DawgRebelinAL
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1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Ok. So, a couple of questions...
1. For which other of our rights do you think we should raise the age to 21? Freedom of religion? Free speech? Due process? Speedy trial? Only those 21 and over have the right to due process of law and to be free of cruel and unusual punishment?
2. If none (or even if you support raising the age for other rights), do you also claim to support Originalist justices and demand an Originalist interpretation of the Constitution and do you decry judical activism of leftist justices who disregard the Constitution and make rulings up on the fly to suit their political preferences?
I don't really expect an answer- only a downvote. So, have at it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:54 am to KAGTASTIC
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So 18 is no longer an adult for other things? Really trying to understand how an 18 is going to be an adult/responsible for other things but not mature enough to buy a gun. 18yos do stupid things in cars, so they shouldn't be able to buy a car? This is a serious question as I'm trying to understand this argument as I can't see the logic unless we officially move the adult age from 18 to 21.
I teach high school. When kids graduate high school, the majority don’t know how to manage money, have no business taking controlled substances or purchasing their own alcohol, and are not equipped to live a self-sustaining lifestyle.
Helicopter parents are more common. It’s discussed ad nauseam on here. “Back in my day, we didn’t need cell-phones, we walked to the mall and stayed all day.” Today’s social climate isn’t doing anything to speed up the maturation process of our youth.
I think an 18 year old can live on their own, but most would need financial assistance. This generation of youth struggles enough with making a phone call instead of texting. Changing a tire is a high hurdle. Let’s not even get started on pro-nouns.
I would have zero problem with making 21 the age in which many restrictions are lifted.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:03 am to Donnie 9 inch
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None. Zero. Zilch. I don’t care how many looney Democrats shoot up schools. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Do yourself a favor and read Scalia's opinion in Heller so you don't come on here looking the fool.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:07 am to Texas Yarddog
quote:odd felons who have served their time dont lose all their rights. nowhere does the constitution allow for such loss of rights.
Felons who have been convicted of a crime with a firearm should be restricted until after serving time + 10 yrs probation.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:10 am to TexasTiger08
I agree with majority of what you mentioned in your post.
As to the below piece though...what are things an 18 to would not be restricted from like any other adult?
When it comes to 2A I essentially look at pretty much all the "rights" we have have to go away before we reach that one. So if we are going to take 2A rights away from 18-20yos then I don't see how they don't fully become minors. Otherwise how could the courts say it's Constitutional, if 18yos can go to war, etc.
As to the below piece though...what are things an 18 to would not be restricted from like any other adult?
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I would have zero problem with making 21 the age in which many restrictions are lifted.
When it comes to 2A I essentially look at pretty much all the "rights" we have have to go away before we reach that one. So if we are going to take 2A rights away from 18-20yos then I don't see how they don't fully become minors. Otherwise how could the courts say it's Constitutional, if 18yos can go to war, etc.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 2:14 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:13 am to Eli Goldfinger
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What gun restrictions would you tolerate?
How about we try "shall not be infringed"??
We've tried gun laws. They don't work.
The trend appears to be that as gun laws have been enacted, gun crimes have escalated. Why in the world would you only want guns in the hands of criminals and police?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:23 am to Eli Goldfinger
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I think I would be OK with raising purchase age to 21.
Why do you support arbitrarily restricting the rights of a person who is a legal adult simply because of their age?
You do realize this is discrimination?
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