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re: Revisiting the Alontae Taylor pick: What did the Saints see that others missed?

Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Very reminiscent of our old coach always trying to prove he’s the smartest person in the room.

The defense has turned around since Allen has been here hasn’t it?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:29 pm to
yeah well. In AT's first interview, he said the staff said they'd play him in both spots and he was willing to play anywhere. Don't be a bit surprised if he ends being the Honey Badger succession plan.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:29 pm to
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The defense has turned around since Allen has been here hasn’t it?


This has nothing to do with my comment.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:35 pm to
I think they do put too much emphasis on RAS but not on this pick. I wasn’t exactly thrilled with the pick but while Adebo was better than what our fans think, he could regress. I remember a lot of posters on here bitching about Adebo during in-game threads, begging for Roby. Taylor has really good tape and his athleticism is top tier. He may supplant Adebo by the end of the year. He’s got that alpha mentality and is a hard worker. That will get you far in the NFL.


I also don’t get the Payton Turner hate. Dude was tearing it up until he got hurt. And we know Cam won’t be here forever.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Right. But what op is saying is with everyone knowing all this, nobody still had him rated that highly. So what did a couple of people on the saints see that Tom’s of other people didn’t?

Very reminiscent of our old coach always trying to prove he’s the smartest person in the room


Everyone being mock drafters? I guess no one remembers their shitty takes bc they have nothing on the line. I just have to side with the Saints cast scouting department and coaches until it’s proven he was a bust. The have been one of the “smartest in the room” since Ireland came aboard.

We don’t know what the rest of the teams’ draft boards looked like. These “reaches” happens every year, especially in these Covid years. The saints didn’t pick again until the 5th round. If anything blame the lack of picks

Posted by Doublebagger
Member since Mar 2021
960 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:12 pm to
Smoke Monday is going to smoke the floor with this guy.
Dont stand a chance. Hes going to be the next Sammy Knight watch.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:15 pm to
They will never be competing at same position.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:24 pm to
Is there a reason you didn't post his strengths?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:24 pm to
You always play a college CB at CB until they can't. Much more valuable to have a good CB than a good safety
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:56 pm to
What could go wrong reaching on a DB in rd2?

Our new Stanley Jean Baptiste
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:30 pm to
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What could go wrong reaching on a DB in rd2? Our new Stanley Jean Baptiste


SJP was one of the best players on the analyst board when he was taken. Different situation.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9169 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:40 pm to
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It was a terrible pick…as I have stated before. Downvote away


For what was available. I’d say you are correct.

From the weaknesses listed by OP, getting a Stanley Jean Baptiste vibe. He was very stiff and could not flip his hips at all. But was tall and could run.

Hope I’m wrong, but secondary help was one of the last things we really needed if they were signing honey badger. Much better talent on the board.
Pickens, Sky or McBride were the way to go.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9169 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Jenkins was always thought to be a 1st round pick and many thought his best position would be safety when he was drafted. Where is the comparison


Exactly, Jenkins was a Thorpe award winner and all American. He was a top 5-10 prospect that slipped some.

This guy has no where near the accolades or skins on the wall. Don’t know what’s the comparison.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:52 pm to
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by bigezsaint
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:02 pm to
It's understandable to question the logic or thinking of drafting Taylor when we did. But things can certainly be worse...the Patriots drafted Cole Strange at 29!
Posted by Wadey
Member since Sep 2020
1515 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:09 pm to
I like it load up on the back end. We also get a healthy Payton Turner it’s almost
Ike 4 new 1st rounders including Badger. Forgot M.T. healthy, man this team is going to take the league by surprise.
Just sit back and enjoy.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:11 pm to
Chris Landry is a guy's opinion I respect.

Former scout and administrator.

he is still a consultant for NFL/college teams today.

I'm not going to copy exactly what he said off his page, but he did say it was a reach at the time in his opinion.

but he says Taylor's potential in man-to-man coverage may make him worth the reach.

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Weaknesses
High-cut with leggy change of direction.

Labored hip corrections when juked by press release.

Very average recovery quickness in space.

Plant-and-drive acceleration from backpedal is lacking.

Limited burst to close allows pitch-and-catch from off-man.

Can be delayed in read/reaction to run plays.

Needs to shed blocks and wrap up the runner.

Not in a huge hurry to tackle bigger backs.


all those scream reach with lots of reach

he might be great but it seems like a reactionary pick when a BPA at another position would have been a surer pick. only time will tell if they got a diamond in the rough or a project player who struggles
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:28 pm to
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I also don’t get the Payton Turner hate. Dude was tearing it up until he got hurt.


He had like 9 tackles in 5 games with 1 sack. Tearing it up? That’s a bit of a reach.
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:54 pm to
More curious about the number of reps than games played.

But at least he looked the part.
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