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Supreme Court finds Boston’s refusal to fly Christian flag unconstitutional

Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:14 am
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:14 am
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The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously ruled that Boston violated the Constitution by refusing to permit a Christian group to fly its flag outside City Hall while allowing other organizations to hoist their banners.

The justices said the city had run afoul of free speech protections by declining a request from Camp Constitution, a religious group, to fly a Christian flag bearing the Latin cross to commemorate Constitution Day and honor the Christian community’s civic contribution.

A pivotal issue in the case was whether Boston, by making a flagpole on City Hall Plaza available for use by certain outside groups, had created a forum for private speech, or whether the flying of third-party flags amounted to a government-backed message.

In a 9-0 decision penned by Justice Stephen Breyer, the court ruled that because Boston’s flag-flying tradition did not amount to government speech, the city’s refusal to fly Camp Constitution’s flag based on its religious viewpoint violated the group’s freedom of speech.

“When a government does not speak for itself, it may not exclude speech based on ‘religious viewpoint,’” Breyer wrote, citing Supreme Court precedent. “Doing so ‘constitutes impermissible viewpoint discrimination.’”

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Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70163 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:15 am to
Wow. A little bit of hope
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26915 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:17 am to
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Wow. A little bit of hope


Nah, this is low hanging fruit and doesn't have much impact. When it comes to something like gay marriage or obamacare the liberals are going to fall in line.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37088 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:19 am to
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Wow. A little bit of hope
How long has it been since we saw a 9-0 ?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29329 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:21 am to
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9-0 decision


Damn. That's a judicial slapdown. Even the not so wise Latina got it right.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14218 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:22 am to
I can’t wait for DeSantis to fly the Christian flag on an embassy and watch the left lose their mind. They will force you to fly their alphabet people religious flag but if a Christian dare try the same, how dare you!
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7903 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:44 am to
Amazing what city government thinks about Christianity… sick POS.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26915 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:49 am to
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Damn. That's a judicial slapdown. Even the not so wise Latina got it right.


It's a head fake because this is throwaway case. Give Miss "the courts are where policy is made" a chance for fundamental transformation and she's going to take it.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8163 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:54 am to
So? What are they going to do about it? The city got what it wanted, they've already been denied (and will likely be denied again).
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:59 am to
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In a 9-0 decision


The wise Latina must have been confused
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8799 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:01 pm to
The SC ruled 9-0, but they also stipulated that Boston would be okay to change the law so that this can be regulated. Boston will do just that to ensure this is no longer an issue moving forward.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94753 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:02 pm to
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In a 9-0 decision penned by Justice Stephen Breyer


How bad have you fricked up as a leftist when it goes like this? Not only do Sotomayor and Breyer go against you, Breyer writes the decision.

#Ihatetoseeit
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57894 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:06 pm to
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In a 9-0 decision


Wow!
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15967 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:16 pm to
You have to be way on the far side of wrong to get a 9-0 SCOTUS decision
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5159 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Boston violated the Constitution by refusing to permit a Christian group to fly its flag outside City Hall while allowing other organizations to hoist their banners.


Idiotic. Who is to determine what is or is not a Christian flag? A municipal employee of Boston? Little does that genius employee know but an enormous bunch of things we use daily have roots in the Christian faith, like the names of days of the week, the calendar as a whole, etc...

Also how much do you have to add/subtract to a flag with the latin cross to make it "not Christian" and thus approved by this municipal employee?

And what of flags that have multiple use, such as cross of St. George or St. Patrick? The flag of England, Alabama, Florida, Lithuania, Georgia (country), etc... It has a Christian saint for a name, does that mean it doesn't pass the test?

Another good question: how many hungry people were fed this year as a result of the ban on flying this flag? More kids get an education? Spousal abuse curtailed?

Oh how I wish to be a civil servant, tilting at windmills only I can see.

This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
315 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:19 pm to
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How long has it been since we saw a 9-0 ?


ABC News - A wave of unanimous decisions

About 2/3 of the cases in the 2021 term were decided 9-0, or with one Justice dissenting. It’s a fairly common result.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18704 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:20 pm to
One of the most common symbols of Christianity you see everyday is something called the "six panel" or christian door.

Top two thirds of the door are a cross and the bottom two panels are meant to depict an open bible. Its the most common door design in the United States, many of you probably have that design in several of your doors at home and never realized. Now that you know you will see it every time you enter a room
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35478 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:27 pm to
I have a Christian Dior Christian door.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously ruled that Boston violated the Constitution by refusing to permit a Christian group to fly its flag outside City Hall while allowing other organizations to hoist their banners.

The justices said the city had run afoul of free speech protections by declining a request from Camp Constitution, a religious group, to fly a Christian flag bearing the Latin cross to commemorate Constitution Day and honor the Christian community’s civic contribution.

A pivotal issue in the case was whether Boston, by making a flagpole on City Hall Plaza available for use by certain outside groups, had created a forum for private speech, or whether the flying of third-party flags amounted to a government-backed message.

In a 9-0 decision penned by Justice Stephen Breyer, the court ruled that because Boston’s flag-flying tradition did not amount to government speech, the city’s refusal to fly Camp Constitution’s flag based on its religious viewpoint violated the group’s freedom of speech.

“When a government does not speak for itself, it may not exclude speech based on ‘religious viewpoint,’” Breyer wrote, citing Supreme Court precedent. “Doing so ‘constitutes impermissible viewpoint discrimination.’”

Seems pretty reasonable. they just need to put a process in place or set the rules or the flagpole usage and let whoever fly whatever. Free speech winning is always great. Even if the particular winners here aren't a great cause.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62001 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:30 pm to
You know it’s bad if the entire court agrees
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