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What would truly useful gun legislation look like?
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:53 am
I think we all agree that most anti-gun legislation and executive orders are strictly vote-getters and pretty useless at stopping the loss of life. So if you had a chance to write the legislation on a clean sheet, what do you do?
Given that most gun deaths are not automatic weapons, and are not usually clean-record victims or suspects, I would emphasize prior records over types of gun.
Any felon caught in possession of a gun in the first five years after conviction (and release from time served) is an automatic ten years in jail. The statistics show that the vast majority of homicides by gun are young men with a prior record. Why are we wasting time on ghost guns and AR15's owned by working mature men with no record when the murderers are immature felons?
Given that most gun deaths are not automatic weapons, and are not usually clean-record victims or suspects, I would emphasize prior records over types of gun.
Any felon caught in possession of a gun in the first five years after conviction (and release from time served) is an automatic ten years in jail. The statistics show that the vast majority of homicides by gun are young men with a prior record. Why are we wasting time on ghost guns and AR15's owned by working mature men with no record when the murderers are immature felons?
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:54 am to tadman
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:54 am to tadman
1400 people in Chicago are responsible for about 80% of crime
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:55 am to tadman
Shall Not Infringe
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:55 am to tadman
It’s already against the law to shoot people.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:56 am to tadman
Any actual crime (robbery, assault, theft, kidnapping, etc) done with a firearm gets a big enhancement. Something like 10 years more than it would have been. Even if the firearm was not discharged. If you do much as brandish it during a robbery, you get the enhancement.
The criminal gets punished… not a law abiding gun owner.
The criminal gets punished… not a law abiding gun owner.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:57 am to fletch105
My guns are lazy AF.
They refuse to get off their asses and kill people.
They refuse to get off their asses and kill people.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:58 am to tadman
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So if you had a chance to write the legislation on a clean sheet, what do you do?
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13 “You shall not murder.(Y)
15 “You shall not steal.(AA)
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:58 am to tadman
Doing away with the national firearms act would be a step in the right direction for gun owners. No gun specific regulations will curb crime the only way to curb gun violence would be harsh penalties for gun violence ie enforce the damn law.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:59 am to tadman
Repeal every single gun law. Make it illegal to harm others or take their stuff. Prosecute those who harm others and take their stuff. Guns aren't even completely a 2A issue. It's about property rights. You should be able to own what you want as long as you aren't harming others.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:00 pm to tadman
"No guns for Democrats."
That would reduce about 99% of the gun murder rate right there. Plus it would show who's serious about the issue. In fact, there is no downside from my perspective, assuming it could be enforced.
That would reduce about 99% of the gun murder rate right there. Plus it would show who's serious about the issue. In fact, there is no downside from my perspective, assuming it could be enforced.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:01 pm to tadman
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if you had a chance to write the legislation on a clean sheet, what do you do?
Nothing. Blank sheet. Done. Go read the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Any gun legislation is unconstitutional.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:01 pm to tadman
If you could pass legislation to change people’s hearts, the gun violence would sharply diminish.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:01 pm to tadman
quote:It would look exactly like the Second Amendment.
What would truly useful gun legislation look like?
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:02 pm to tadman
Getting rid of the ATF.
Here all day folks.
Here all day folks.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:02 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Repeal every single gun law. Make it illegal to harm others or take their stuff. Prosecute those who harm others and take their stuff. Guns aren't even completely a 2A issue. It's about property rights. You should be able to own what you want as long as you aren't harming others.
Welcome on board!
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:02 pm to tadman
Something that bolsters the concept of militias.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:02 pm to tadman
Gun registration for first 5 years of ownership at zero cost.
Subsidies on gun safes and gun locks.
Universal background check.
Adults who had a juvenile criminal record are required to wait until 21 and get approval from local sheriff before buying.
Same for adults that required full or semi hospitalization as a child or were noted to have violent tendencies by a mental health professional. Approval would be a clean bill of mental health.
Subsidies on gun safes and gun locks.
Universal background check.
Adults who had a juvenile criminal record are required to wait until 21 and get approval from local sheriff before buying.
Same for adults that required full or semi hospitalization as a child or were noted to have violent tendencies by a mental health professional. Approval would be a clean bill of mental health.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:04 pm to tadman
The abyss
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:05 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Welcome on board!
I am libertarian but registered Republican. 2 party sucks but is here to stay. Best thing imo is to elect libertarians who run repub like Thomas Massie.
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