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re: PDF of the entire NOA.

Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:27 pm to
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This is total bull shite. You accidently run into Trendon Watford's family in a restaurant when you arrived first and Christian and Trendon's mom come say hi at your table after you been personal friend with Trendon's family since he was 2. Total bull shite allegation.


shite like this is so much crap….
Back when I was at LSU I was friends with Brian Beshara and some other basketball players…we would go to dinner with my family and my dad would pick up the tab….he would have picked up the tab whether they we’re athletes or not. Cause that’s what parents do
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
21151 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:29 pm to
Its alleged, so the ncaa can put whatever bullshite they want in there, it WAS lsu’s job to refute it. Instead the admin tucked tail and ran because they were scared it would frick up the golden goose (football).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119325 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:30 pm to
The only allegation that is worthy of reprimand is allegation number 7 where Wade paid for inducements from his wife's account.

A multigame suspension would have sufficed and we could have moved on. Everything else is complete bull shite and very defensible with good attorneys.


Man, Woodward is such a pussy.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18947 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:30 pm to
Because of Wade's actions, they're bringing up any crap they can find.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6279 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Its alleged, so the ncaa can put whatever bullshite they want in there, it WAS lsu’s job to refute it. Instead the admin tucked tail and ran because they were scared it would frick up the golden goose (football).


Still think this is why it took so long to hand this out. My guess is there is really not much evidence of these allegations. I could be wrong though.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:31 pm to
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“I know you also gave money to some of your new recruits. . .” On July 26, 2017, sent Wade another text, “. . . my trainer I use to work with has talked to a few ppl in the basketball world & have offered me money to talk. Pls contact me by the end of the day or I will have to take them up on the offer.” Wade’s reply to these text messages was, “Call me.” On July 27, 2017, sent another text, “I need 5 more to put a down payment on a car. Put it in the same account.” On July 28, 2017, continued, “Send 9 to this account (my mon’s [sic] ... you’ve done your part now I have to do mine and make sure this doesn’t get out.” On July 31, 2017, sent another text, “Wade it’s . Did you get my message?” Wade replied the same day, “Yes I did. I thought we were done.” replied, “I told you when I went back to the dealership he told me I had to put more money down because of my credit. We will be done w everything after this...” Wade replied the following day on August 1, 2017,“I’m sorry you are having money issues. You said we were done after the last transfer I sent, so in my mind we are done

Whoever the extortionist is, they’re incredibly lucky that I’m not Will Wade because if I had his income and was in that position I’d be all over the news as the coach who paid to have 10 bullets put in that person’s head
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119325 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:33 pm to
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shite like this is so much crap….
Back when I was at LSU I was friends with Brian Beshara and some other basketball players…we would go to dinner with my family and my dad would pick up the tab….he would have picked up the tab whether they we’re athletes or not. Cause that’s what parents do




Wade is not even being accused of picking up the tab. It's "impermissible in-person contact" for accidently running into the Watford family at a popular restaurant in Birmingham. Such bull shite.
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Still think this is why it took so long to hand this out. My guess is there is really not much evidence of these allegations. I could be wrong though.


Exactly, agreed.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32167 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:35 pm to
Maybe I’m seeing what I want to see but I read some of that where they seemed to make a delineation between Wade and LSU.

IE the time it referenced (summarizing) coach Wade refused to give documents to the university and the compliance department only learned from the NCAA.

They are going to hammer Wade with a show cause because of yahoo sports and pat forde
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67452 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:37 pm to
Interesting that they claim Odell’s actions were “isolated or limited”

It happened one time.

The Funes stuff concerns me but there is a lot of holes.

Vandal’s dad got paid for 2 years after Vadal stopped playing for LSU. Vadal was already signed when he started playing.

Funes was doing this with non-football players families and they were funneling money back to him.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119325 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:38 pm to
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Reads like a bunch nerds
that cooked this up in their Moms basement. Most of this shite is light compared to what actually goes on in collegiate sports. I can see why most schools tell them to get fricked.



It makes Woodward look weak.

I swear, LSU is run by a bunch of cucks. No fighters. Do men exists in leadership positions anymore?
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3408 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:39 pm to
I read this frankly a bit confused on the tactics of Woodward in firing Wade. I was concerned about the Smart stuff, but the NCAA is even conceding this is related to a coaching offer; that is small potatoes. The VCU should have no effect on LSU, other than if they wanted to hit Wade with a show cause (which is moot for LSU now). The Cisse thing is too outrageous to believe, and the NCAA would have to provide proof, especially given Cisse did not attend LSU. Won't even dignify the Watford portion - asinine to have that in there.

The only concern I have is the inducements from the Wife's account with respect to LSU's position. With Wade gone it seems like the only thing they could possibly hit LSU on. Which makes me believe that LSU is very confident through assurances that they will be absolved by giving up Wade. It's their pound of flesh. We better be right on that.

Otherwise, I would have gone through the process of requiring proof and lived with show cause ramifications. Wade would have coached here 20 more years.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32167 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:40 pm to
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So an allegation about not addressing the previous allegations to our satisfaction?



Also thought it was hilarious that they counted up how many bullshite level 3 violations LSU self reported as mitigating factors.

IE do our job for us and kiss our ring and say your penance and we *might* let you off easier
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35048 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:41 pm to
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They are going to hammer Wade with a shore cause because of yahoo sports and pat forde


Patt Forde and Dick Vitale are the only reason this is still even a thing. I really want to know who paid those two pieces of shite to take Wade out. Probably was Cal after he got butthurt we stole Smart from him
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32167 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:41 pm to
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It makes Woodward look weak.



Naw it just proves the theory of Scott didn’t like dealing with Wade and was looking for an excuse to get rid of him
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119325 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:43 pm to
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I read this frankly a bit confused on the tactics of Woodward in firing Wade. I was concerned about the Smart stuff, but the NCAA is even conceding this is related to a coaching offer; that is small potatoes. The VCU should have no effect on LSU, other than if they wanted to hit Wade with a show cause (which is moot for LSU now). The Cisse thing is too outrageous to believe, and the NCAA would have to provide proof, especially given Cisse did not attend LSU. Won't even dignify the Watford portion - asinine to have that in there.

The only concern I have is the inducements from the Wife's account with respect to LSU's position. With Wade gone it seems like the only thing they could possibly hit LSU on. Which makes me believe that LSU is very confident through assurances that they will be absolved by giving up Wade. It's their pound of flesh. We better be right on that.

Otherwise, I would have gone through the process of requiring proof and lived with show cause ramifications. Wade would have coached here 20 more years.


Fair assessment.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119325 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:46 pm to
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quote:

It makes Woodward look weak.




Naw it just proves the theory of Scott didn’t like dealing with Wade and was looking for an excuse to get rid of him



You're right.

But Woody wants us to believe he had no choice but to fire him. That's not true. He had a choice and he chose to fire Wade because Woody wants his guy and the NCAA provided plausible deniability. But after reading the NOA that deniability is flimsy at best. If he wanted Wade he could have suspended him and moved on. Woody did not want Wade.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6279 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:46 pm to
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It makes Woodward look weak.

I swear, LSU is run by a bunch of cucks. No fighters. Do men exists in leadership positions anymore?



Its sad but I think the constant media bashing of Wade and LSU took its toll. I hate to give them credit but there was a full on onslaught of Wade and it seems like LSU couldnt take it anymore. Tate and Woodward kind of addressed this in the letter. One of the few factors.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36797 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Wade is not even being accused of picking up the tab. It's "impermissible in-person contact" for accidently running into the Watford family at a popular restaurant in Birmingham. Such bull shite.




How does a coach who's scouting AT A TOURNAMENT NOT run into a potential recruit??
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3408 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Naw it just proves the theory of Scott didn’t like dealing with Wade and was looking for an excuse to get rid of him


I think this was clearly the motivating factor. Was it justified, sure, but it's more this than reason. Woodward probably didn't like the "bad boys" persona and brashness, and having a coach outside the mainstream club including the media attention that comes with that. This made it easy.

He better crush this hire - talking Brian Kelly/Mulkey type - because Wade could have been a 20 year staple for this program even after 3-4 years of dealing with a show cause.
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