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Deciding on a new mower, recommendations needed

Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10813 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:01 am
I have a yard and also cut my neighbors. I have a 42” tractor and it is taking forever to do both. any recommendations on a mower around 5-6k? I’ve looked at the entry level commercial Deere, scag, never heard of bad boy but reviews look good?

I would prefer a “commercial” mower just so it will last probably forever and I’m sure they cut much better

TIA
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22409 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:06 am to
I have a Hustler Raptor 42" that's been great
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14816 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:07 am to
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I have a 42” tractor and it is taking forever to do both.


So I assume you want bigger?

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would prefer a “commercial” mower

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around 5-6k?


You’d probably have to look for a used one at that price. I like Gravely and the Pro Turn’s (commercial model) start at about $9k brand new. But you can get the ZT HD in 60” for about $7k brand new.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:08 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9824 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:09 am to
I have a Gravely ProTurn that I purchased off FB marketplace for a great price.

The local dealer picks it up, services it and drops it back off.

Factor in local service when making a purchase.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10813 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:11 am to
Doesn’t have to be bigger, just want to go faster. The yards are an acre each give or take and it’s taking me almost 2 hours of mow time.

Home Depot has a 54” deere that’s tempting me but I’ve heard either really good or really bad about Deere stuff.

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This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14816 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:15 am to
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Factor in local service when making a purchase.


Definitely. Southland Engine has been good to me. Bought my Gravely and get my service and parts from the Carencro location.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14816 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:24 am to
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Home Depot has a 54” deere that’s tempting me but I’ve heard either really good or really bad about Deere stuff.


Look at the Gravely ZT-X and ZT-XL and compare them. Comparable price with welded decks instead of stamped. Kawasaki engine. You get a better product for the price IMO. I have a 10 year old Gravely that has been bulletproof. I’ll probably be upgrading this year.
Posted by reveille
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
1198 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:27 am to
don't buy the box store version. Find a local dealer that carries what you want and can do service for you. Been very satisfied with my 2017 Gravely ZTHD 60". Runs like a champ. Only thing I have had to do is take to dealer for regular maintenance and I have replace a couple belts.
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
4322 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:32 am to
I bought a gravely and absolutely love it. Proturn 260 and it cost me about 11k but worth every penny
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3807 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:51 am to
I’m currently in the market for a Gravely ZT-HD. There’s been several threads in the past on recommendations of mowers. Hustler, Gravely, Scag, Bad Boy, etc. are all quality brands. Stay away from box store brands/models. Make sure you review the components when comparing models.

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I would prefer a “commercial” mower just so it will last probably forever and I’m sure they cut much better


This opinion/perspective always bothers me. Is a commercial mower, for a residential mower where you’re cutting 2-3 hrs a week max, really necessary? You’re putting maybe 50-60 hrs a year on the mower. A commercial machine is gonna be 2-3x the cost of a quality residential/prosumer model. A quality mower is gonna last a while on a typical residential use. You can buy and replace that commercial machine several times with a very good residential mower, and take advantage of new technology, new warranty, etc.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:08 am to
You're not touching anything new that is commercial unless you're at 10k.

And you don't need a true commercial unit for 2 yards. Get the nicest Scag or Bad Boy that is in your price range and it will perform very well for you.

I used to own a landscape business (just businesses, not residential) in my opinion, I wouldn't buy a brand that owned by a larger brand that makes crappy stuff. (MTD, Ariens, etc)
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:50 am
Posted by Bionicknee
Northeast of Clinton
Member since Jun 2014
135 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:09 am to
Google Spartan mowers and read story. Replaced my 54" JD Z810 commercial after drive motor destroyed itself and cannot find a replacement motor because JD had Parker build special unit for just for them then just three years later discontinued the whole line. I replaced it with a a 54" Spartan with a Kawasaki mtr late last cutting season. Only cut with it a few times and really like it. I cut about 4 acres. ps JD parts are stupid high!!!!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:12 am to
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commercial” mower


Definitely not necessary. When I went through this 2 years ago I ended up with a John deer z375r I think. Big residential mower which was about 4500 out the door. I cut 3 acres with it weekly and cannot see where a commercial mower would have benefited me any. It only has 100 hours on it after 2 years, and the machine should be good for 1000 hours easily. With a commercial machine you're paying a whole lot for something that is designed to last 4-5k hours, which will take a regular homeowner 50 years to accumulate.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:26 am to
I'll also add that in my opinion, with a mower you don't need to be overly concerned with dealer support and distance. The only time a mower should go back to the dealer is warranty issues (which should be very rare on a quality residential machine). You can get OEM or knock off parts sent right to your door. Mowers are very easy to work on. I once had a nice Ferris for over 10 years that never saw a dealer. My current mower is on year 7 amd it will never see a dealer since the day I bought it.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:54 pm to
The Gravely down voters get their feelings hurt but instead of a response, it's a down vote. Ariens bought Gravely for the name and moved their production to the Ariens factory. The higher end mowers then get painted red and puts a G on them. Not that they are bad mowers, but it's the damn truth. Once corporate bean counters get involved after an acquisition, quality always declines.

I used to love the suspension and ride on the Ferris until they were bought out by Briggs & Scrapiron and the cost cutting measures hurt their quality.

I used to love Gravely, but know what you're buying.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1703 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 5:32 pm to
I have a 52” Scag Patriot. About to start it’s fourth season. It has right at 200 hours on it.
Zero problems with it. Kawasaki engine. I change the oil and filter every 50 hours.
I cannot remember exactly what I paid but, it was around $6000 out the door. It is called a commercial/residential. The deck is thick and the mower is well built. I recommend it based on my personal experience.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1317 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:08 pm to
Check craigslist or FB marketplace for a used commercial unit. Some can be had at a bargain.

PSA - Just did a quick look on FB marketplace and they have several good deals. Had a Scag with 250hrs for $4300. That's incredible if its legit.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 9:17 pm
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:22 pm to
I sold a few lines before I retired and got out of the business.

$4k to $6K you can get a prosumer unit in most major brands that will get you where you want to be.

Really want to look at the transmission usually Hydro-gear ZT 28 to ZT 30 is fine.
You don't need a Parker pump transmission.

Most brands are decent in this price range and most brands should have a fab deck.
Stamp decks are usually used in lower end units and gives you a good air flow with a smaller engine to lift the grass for a good quality of cut. They are made for neighborhood lawns not field cutting.

I sold alot of brands and I liked the Cub Cadet ZTX series which was a solid unit along with Gravely, Hustler, Toro, Exmark. Bad Boy makes a nice deck along with spartan, but the spindles use to piss my customers off. I have not seen the 2022 units as I retired in 2021. Finding units might be tough, so don't wait as mfg are still cutting dealers orders from what I am hearing.

The thing is to find you a good dealer who will service your product in a timely manner vs a dealer that will put you on the back burner to take care of their larger customers.
Biggest thing I use to see are the transmission especially if people do not change the filters and oil. Engine that is fairly easy change the filter and oil initially after 5 to 10 hours and then after that around 50 hours which is once a year for the avg homeowner.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 9:27 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

The thing is to find you a good dealer who will service your product in a timely manner vs a dealer that will put you on the back burner to take care of their larger customers.
Biggest thing I use to see are the transmission especially if people do not change the filters and oil. Engine that is fairly easy change the filter and oil initially after 5 to 10 hours and then after that around 50 hours which is once a year for the avg homeowner.


I respect your opinions on all of that as someone who was on the opposite side of the business. However, for the average home owner, I would say that dealer assistance is not as important these days. Just like when someone buys a new vehicle, outside of warranty work it really never goes back to the dealer for service. If you can do rudimentary maintenance, dealer support is negligible for homeowners.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1657 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:50 pm to
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If you can do rudimentary maintenance, dealer support is negligible for homeowners.


LOL, as a dealer we do nearly $3 mil annually in parts and labor, but no they don’t need us. We keep 9 mechanics busy working 40hrs a week year round, but they don’t need us. We run 2 pickup/delivery trucks full time just to pickup and deliver customers mowers for service, but they don’t need us. That’s with 80% residential customer business, most large commercial operations have their own service departments. We do all that and we only service 3 mower brands.

Many customers can’t even route a belt correctly. Many customers would rather pay us to service their mower while they play golf or fish. Not everyone needs a dealer but ask the guy who has a brand with no place for service if he wishes he’d bought from a dealer.
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