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re: What will Putin's Legacy Be?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:50 am to RiverCityTider
Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:50 am to RiverCityTider
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What will Putin's Legacy Be?
He broke Joe Biden.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:56 am to mjfrog93
quote:That's pretty much my take as well. Don't forget, the Bushes and Slick Willie and his wench had a "helping hand" in all this too. They were instrumental in propping up their sot drunk puppet, Boris Yeltsin, as well. I totally understand Putin's motivations without cheering on his actions. At least he is fighting back against the evil NWO, unlike Biden, who is their handmaiden.
My understanding is that the evil people that have overtaken the Ukraine through globalist insurrections over the past couple decades have way more blood on their hands in the Ukraine than do the Russians.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:59 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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The USA is working hard with non stop media propaganda to get the public okay with sending NATO/USA troops to war. They will show every death on tv and pull hard on your emotional heart strings 24/7. This was why Biden was brought into office, to do what Trump wouldnt do, go to war with Russia. If you have family in the military i would get them out or come up with a reason why they wont go fight Biden's Corrupt War.
How is it Biden's fault that Putin invaded a neighboring country? How is this Biden Corrupt war?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:15 am to Pettifogger
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If the post-CW NATO states were regularly posturing and taunting Russia and pushing boundaries I might agree. But I don't think any of that is seriously happening without pretty considerable Russian prompting/involvement.
What the actual frick?!? This has to be sarcasm....
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:17 am to deuceiswild
A country is not sovereign if it is not allowed to join alliances.
This ultimately is the problem. Ukraine cannot control its own destiny.
This ultimately is the problem. Ukraine cannot control its own destiny.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:28 am to The_Duke
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How is it Biden's fault that Putin invaded a neighboring country? How is this Biden Corrupt war?
It's our war. The US. Dating back to 1991, and to some extent to 1985. It's ours. Both parties.
But Biden's specific involvement includes being weak as the current US president, and by being VP when we orchestrated a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and installed a govt we liked over there. This led to Putin taking Crimea. I don't know how Biden voted, but you may want to check what his position was in 1998 when we green lighted expanding NATO. My guess is that he supported it, because he's been wrong every step of the way for 50 years.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:03 pm to jonnyanony
quote:Au contraire. That's why I suggested you provide a link. Often for someone who is off-track and off-base, seeking a link is a self-educational exercise.
Not a student of history, huh?
But I'll spoon-feed you. Putin built nothing on a return to communism. He has no yearning for communism. In fact, Russian communists dream of rising as a credible alternative to Putin and his United Russia party.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:55 pm to deuceiswild
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It's our war. The US. Dating back to 1991, and to some extent to 1985. It's ours. Both parties.
But Biden's specific involvement includes being weak as the current US president, and by being VP when we orchestrated a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and installed a govt we liked over there. This led to Putin taking Crimea. I don't know how Biden voted, but you may want to check what his position was in 1998 when we green lighted expanding NATO. My guess is that he supported it, because he's been wrong every step of the way for 50 years.
I'm still not sure how you blame any of this on one man other than Putin himself. Everyone supports NATO expansion--not just Biden or the Dems.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:14 pm to RiverCityTider
Let me guess.
You think Putin is a noble leader, and the only leader in the world who is fighting the good fight.
You think Putin is a noble leader, and the only leader in the world who is fighting the good fight.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:17 pm to The_Duke
So Putin is the only one to blame?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:21 pm to NC_Tigah
No. Please note I didn't say he desired a return to communism, just to the height of Soviet communism. He's said this many, many times. You need to read better.
He came to rise in the most prosperous times in Soviet history, where the arm of the party was strong, the empire vast and the people compliant.
The last ideological communist leader in the USSR was also its first.
Putin fed the oligarchs on day one.
He came to rise in the most prosperous times in Soviet history, where the arm of the party was strong, the empire vast and the people compliant.
The last ideological communist leader in the USSR was also its first.
Putin fed the oligarchs on day one.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:31 pm to dchog
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So Putin is the only one to blame?
If you push a bad person to bad acts, does it negate the complete culpability of the bad person?
I guess that's the question. I think of them in two different spheres. Putin is 100% to blame. He took unnecessary action regardless of what the West did and is killing innocents.
But that doesn't mean the West acted wisely and within the confines of our assessment wouldn't bear some of the blame for the overall consequences.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:32 pm to RiverCityTider
Looking at the history of Russia, all of their leaders were tyrants. It was just different levels of oppression. It started with Genghis Khan around 1400.
Putin will probably get a 'B' if it's grading on the curve.
Putin will probably get a 'B' if it's grading on the curve.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:49 pm to jonnyanony
quote:No. Perhaps you meant something different than you wrote. Perhaps you didn't. Judging by your response, the latter seems increasingly likely. Regardless, you said
No. Please note I didn't say he desired a return to communism, just to the height of Soviet communism. He's said this many, many times. You need to read better.
quote:There was no intention in pursuing this beyond the initial alert to you that Putin had no desire to return Russia and its old satellites to Communism. A simple "Thanks, I didn't know that," or "Thanks, I knew that, and I should have been more clear in expressing it," would have sufficed. Maybe next time.
He's built a lot of his reputation on a return to communist-USSR glory
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:13 pm to NC_Tigah
You can't read.
The subject of the second clause is literally "glory." "Communist-USSR" lets you know what period of glory to which Putin has repeatedly harkened.
If you're not going to read the post I can't help you.
The subject of the second clause is literally "glory." "Communist-USSR" lets you know what period of glory to which Putin has repeatedly harkened.
If you're not going to read the post I can't help you.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:17 pm to Pettifogger
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But that doesn't mean the West acted wisely and within the confines of our assessment wouldn't bear some of the blame for the overall consequences.
Yeah but Vlad is sticking it to the NWO, Great Re-Set Globalists and their Ukranian ATM led by a Zionist front man so its all good.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:20 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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The guy who destroyed the Dems money laundering honeypot.
Let's not forget everyone's favorite Mittens!
Posted on 3/9/22 at 4:03 pm to dchog
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So Putin is the only one to blame?
Yes Putin is the only one to blame here for the war he started. I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 4:33 pm to jonnyanony
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"Communist-USSR" lets you know what period of glory
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So ... when was the non-Communist USSR period, Einstein?
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