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What will Putin's Legacy Be?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:53 pm
Probably not very good.
But I heard a very interesting argument today to the contrary.
They said in effective that a Ukraine in NATO would have been a WWIII tripwire.
But instead, Putin is creating a neutral Ukraine right between East and West.
The conclusion was that, assuming we get through the rest of this, we might actually be living in a much safer world.
But I heard a very interesting argument today to the contrary.
They said in effective that a Ukraine in NATO would have been a WWIII tripwire.
But instead, Putin is creating a neutral Ukraine right between East and West.
The conclusion was that, assuming we get through the rest of this, we might actually be living in a much safer world.
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:00 pm to RiverCityTider
A former KGB Officer and Russian Dictator. A globalist elite and a young Klaus World Economic Junior Leader.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:03 pm to RiverCityTider
So Putin wants Ukraine to be neutral? Doubt that. Albeit, if Ukraine is a Russian puppet state, then Poland becomes a de facto NATO Nation right on Russia's border.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:03 pm to subidc
Yes. I say him at the WEF video conference.
I don't think he is part of it's He's a nationalist. He's just keeping his enemies close.
I don't think he is part of it's He's a nationalist. He's just keeping his enemies close.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Depends on who wins and writes the history.
Ukraine won’t be the end. There’s more to come.
Ukraine won’t be the end. There’s more to come.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:04 pm to RiverCityTider
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But instead, Putin is creating a neutral Ukraine right between East and West.
Do you really think Putin wants a neutral Ukraine? That would belie his own statements about Ukraine being part of Russia
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The conclusion was that, assuming we get through the rest of this, we might actually be living in a much safer world.
If the post-CW NATO states were regularly posturing and taunting Russia and pushing boundaries I might agree. But I don't think any of that is seriously happening without pretty considerable Russian prompting/involvement.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:05 pm to RiverCityTider
The USA is working hard with non stop media propaganda to get the public okay with sending NATO/USA troops to war. They will show every death on tv and pull hard on your emotional heart strings 24/7. This was why Biden was brought into office, to do what Trump wouldnt do, go to war with Russia. If you have family in the military i would get them out or come up with a reason why they wont go fight Biden's Corrupt War.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:05 pm to Pettifogger
Putin wanted assurances of a neutral Ukraine. That is what he asked for. And they would give no assurance.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:06 pm to RiverCityTider
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Putin wanted assurances of a neutral Ukraine. That is what he asked for. And they would give no assurance.
And his ranting about Ukraine not being a real country with a right to exist that has always been inseparable from Russia? Thoughts?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:09 pm to Pettifogger
Im just telling you what's being said. No assurance would be given by Ukraine or the United States.
A statement to that effect would have saved alot of lives.
A statement to that effect would have saved alot of lives.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:10 pm to RiverCityTider
He's a thug. A murderer. A war criminal. A pos.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:14 pm to RiverCityTider
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Im just telling you what's being said.
By who? Putin?
Because Putin also said those other things, in the days and hours before he invaded Ukraine and started the killing.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:27 pm to Pettifogger
Didn't have to be killing. That's on Biden.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:30 pm to Pettifogger
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Because Putin also said those other things, in the days and hours before he invaded Ukraine and started the killing.
Putin has been saying what he was going to do for decades...back to Bill Clinton...he has said what he wanted many, many times. Many people, and NATO members, could have done something.
No one listened and here we are.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:37 pm to RiverCityTider
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Didn't have to be killing. That's on Biden.
To be clear, there are two types of culpability here
- The first is western style "but for our hubris we wouldn't have put an irrational actor into a corner" responsibility
- The second is the type where you actually do the killing
So yeah, there didn't have to be killing, and the person largely responsible for that is Vladimir Putin.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:42 pm to RiverCityTider
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What will putins legacy be
From whos perspective?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:43 pm to RiverCityTider
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The conclusion was that, assuming we get through the rest of this, we might actually be living in a much safer world.
Man you should just stop posting
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Another communist on the ash heap of history
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Hard to say at this moment.
Most likely a shrewd dictator who managed to keep power despite CIA/globalist effort to overturn him.
We'll see what moves he makes after this de-facto Cold War style Iron Curtain coming down around Russia. Uncertain times ahead.
Most likely a shrewd dictator who managed to keep power despite CIA/globalist effort to overturn him.
We'll see what moves he makes after this de-facto Cold War style Iron Curtain coming down around Russia. Uncertain times ahead.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:05 pm to RiverCityTider
Turn around a country nobody respect.
Let Russian people have enough food and money.
Before Putin, Russia can not feed its own people. A lot girls went to west do dark business.
Let Russian people have enough food and money.
Before Putin, Russia can not feed its own people. A lot girls went to west do dark business.
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