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All this talk about Putin being upset about progress so far has to be BS

Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7972 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:59 am
It’s just more propaganda spewed up. I truly believe Putin is playing rope a dope. He’s nowhere near dumb enough to have played his cards yet. He didn’t rise through the KGB and become president being a dummy. I believe he’s waiting to see what the rest of worlds response is.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:00 am to
You must be a Putin-lover too.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:00 am to
For the expectations that Putin had for this campaign, he certainly getting his arse handed to him. That's undebatable at this point.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:02 am to
I’m not a fan of how we are trying to frame this war and how we set expectations. They may be far different to what Putin expects and likely are. Our media has set ridiculously lofty goals. It’s not hard to see the game they are playing
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15519 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:03 am to
Putin has this thing under control right?
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:09 am to
It’s obviously bs because it’s literally only been 4 days. If Putin successfully invaded the largest country in Europe in 2 days then he would literally be on par with Alexander the Great!
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
8028 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:15 am to
quote:

All this talk about Putin being upset about progress so far has to be BS

Well... Yeah.

I know social media has spoiled the West quite a bit, but, wars typically aren't won in the first week of fighting.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19164 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 9:27 am to
Can we stop starting threads claiming every fricking thing out of Ukrainian is propaganda? We fricking get it. No one here is telling anyone you have to believe every single thing you hear, but it’s getting quite annoying reading the same shite over and over from the propaganda bots.
Posted by Concerned Senior
New England
Member since Oct 2020
756 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:34 am to
As much as I'd rather not believe what I'm thinking, he may very well be waiting for that one opportunity to escalate this beyond the borders of Ukraine. He certainly has given the world enough warnings that the unthinkable is a possibility if NATO intervenes on behalf of Ukraine giving him the excuse he wants to "gobble" up more countries in his quest to restore the former Soviet Union.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24863 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:36 am to
The best outcome was to overtake Ukraine quickly and decisively. He is a fool if he thinks showing weakness is at all a good strategy here. I think he underestimated the situation and the repercussions.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8123 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

It’s just more propaganda spewed up. I truly believe Putin is playing rope a dope. He’s nowhere near dumb enough to have played his cards yet. He didn’t rise through the KGB and become president being a dummy. I believe he’s waiting to see what the rest of worlds response is.

Right, but these are just your opinions.

You are essentially saying that your opinions are more trustworthy than the whole of the Western world. Skepticism I get, but that's a bit much.

As for Putin being upset: he probably is. The entire world is saying he's getting humiliated. There are social media videos of Ukrainians laughing at him near burned out husks of Russian equipment.

Is it propaganda? Potentially. That "Ghost" stuff was always silly and I don't believe a word of it.

I believe there are a lot of Russian equipment in smoldering heaps. I believe NATO countries are starting to send Ukraine anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons through Poland. I believe Russia continues to escalate because their first attempts did not work.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13108 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:14 pm to
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I truly believe Putin is playing rope a dope.

That’s a boxing strategy (suitable for 1 person vs another), not a war strategy (thousands on both sides with high costs on both).

All assets are precious and should be used efficiently. Why would you go to war willingly taking more abuse to your limited assets as a means to lower the other side’s expectations?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
7102 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:59 pm to
It took the US 3 weeks to take Baghdad.

The propaganda from the US media is astounding.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:01 pm to
Its only been a few days, Iraq took longer to pacify when the urban fighting began.


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Neo-Cons accusing everyone who disagrees with them as being Putin-lovers. Exactly what Tucker Carlson said would happen.


Yeah, i am also starting to see how mindless people are and how they just follow the prevailing media story whatever it may be.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38918 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:02 pm to
He might crazy or a frick up
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64576 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:03 pm to
I agree. If Putin swept in too quickly without bringing up the rear, he creates a classic military blunder known as a Salient.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7972 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 4:00 pm to
So I take a 1.5 hour nap and it goes from Ukraine Is wooping russias arse to Russia has major cities surrounded on all sides?? Told y’all total propaganda
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61585 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 4:04 pm to
They haven't touched a single cell tower.

ISPs are still up.

Water, power and all infrastructure is fine.

If they wanted to target civilians, or decided to carpet bomb, they would.

They have not done that. This isn't accidental.

They're targeting military installations/targets and anyone who scoffs at Putin's description of this action as "special operations" and "denazification" does so at the risk of being branded a retard.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 4:18 pm to
He has a heavy presence in Ukraine and is advancing. People believing this media nonsense of "Ukraine is winning" are just flat out dumb. No one takes a major city in a week. Without serious Western help, Putin will take most of eastern Ukraine.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

 I truly believe Putin is playing rope a dope. He’s nowhere near dumb enough to have played his cards yet. He didn’t rise through the KGB and become president being a dummy. I believe he’s waiting to see what the rest of worlds response is.


Someone should shoot that son of a bitch.
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