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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:44 pm to RuLSU
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:44 pm to RuLSU
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I'll offer my perspective.
First: Ukraine "surviving" is not enough. They have to come out of this stronger than they were. EU membership seems likely, which will make them wealthier than Russia and cut Russia off from Western trade further.
Second: Russia has, IMO, already lost. Their economy is bricked beyond belief. They cannot even sell gas domestically.
The land they've conquered is broken and destroyed, with the population mostly gone. They gain resources they already owned, in land that must be rebuilt. That's not an ideal war result, is it?
Russia can't afford to build up infrastructure in their own country, but they'll magically rebuild Ukraine? It's a laughable concept.
Russia's black sea fleet is toast, their oil production is toast, their foreign reserves are toast, their assets are seized by western countries, and they still haven't conquered the Donbas.
*ETA -- Russia can only "win" by taking over the whole of Ukraine and gaining 10m+ new civilians, new resources they didn't already own AND gain back market access to the west within a time frame of ~5 years. Otherwise, the costs of the war massively exceed the gains of the war.
Military conquest of another country simply does not work anymore. The mechanisms put into place after WWII to isolate the offending country from the world economy make it a worthless move.
Xi wants Taiwan, but that is CCP heritage grudge and eliminating a sector of people who could have a legitimate hereditary claim to power in China, itself. Plus, the problem - again - of a comparatively wealthy democracy of the same people with generally higher standard of living fairly close is an irritant. We'll see if he ever really tries to go through with it (we should certainly act and prepare like he's going to any day now). But he seems to want China to become dominant through being an economic powerhouse... perhaps he - like Putin - thinks if he can get prominent countries so tied up and locked in to China's economy they will not be able to do anything about it?
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:50 pm to CitizenK
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CP2's request. Case closed
Is English your second language. They put in the request and have waited eight months for ferc, thats pretty easy to understand, at least for some.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:59 pm to Bunk Moreland
Not surprised that John Brennan was involved.
And this gives credence to my theory that the Trump / Zelenskyy phone call and subsequent impeachment was a setup.
Zelenskyy was installed the same way Macron was by the Globalists.
And this gives credence to my theory that the Trump / Zelenskyy phone call and subsequent impeachment was a setup.
Zelenskyy was installed the same way Macron was by the Globalists.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:03 pm to SirWinston
Wait a minute ... you really think that it was a conspiracy?
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:04 pm to GOP_Tiger
Son of a bitch - I really do!
I can't fathom that so many of you DONT see it that way.
Of course the rat Alexsandr Vindmann and others just happened to be ready to pounce on Trump, and now he and his brother Yevgheny are being rewarded with book deals, de facto lifetime appointments and House seats in safe blue districts.
ETA: I don’t think Zelenskyy was necessarily in on the phone call itself, only that he was shepherded to electoral victory by Team Nuland / Globalists and told what to say and not to say after the phone call brouhaha blew up in the U.S.)
I can't fathom that so many of you DONT see it that way.
Of course the rat Alexsandr Vindmann and others just happened to be ready to pounce on Trump, and now he and his brother Yevgheny are being rewarded with book deals, de facto lifetime appointments and House seats in safe blue districts.
ETA: I don’t think Zelenskyy was necessarily in on the phone call itself, only that he was shepherded to electoral victory by Team Nuland / Globalists and told what to say and not to say after the phone call brouhaha blew up in the U.S.)
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:18 pm to trinidadtiger
So that's why multinationals with contracts to buy the LNG are suing them for the holdup.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 4:40 pm to SirWinston
I would love to live in a world where the level of cooperation, planning, and execution necessary to pull off these conspiracies on a global scale actually existed.
Some of you have never managed human beings and it’s glaringly obvious.
Some of you have never managed human beings and it’s glaringly obvious.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 4:56 pm to Hateradedrink
It's like 8 people who report to no one and who have unlimited kickback and coercion powers. Not that hard.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 5:13 pm to SirWinston
8 people and all the election personnel they have to override and all the opposition deterrence they have to perform against the “white hats” who are also somehow clandestinely thwarting their activities.
Just silently humming along in the background.
Just silently humming along in the background.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 5:22 pm to Hateradedrink
Posted on 4/30/24 at 5:45 pm to CitizenK
Seems the OPC has lost it's effectiveness... how does this affect Russia's balance sheet.
In the early days, posters touted how the OPC was going to hurt if not cripple Russia..
so what now?
In the early days, posters touted how the OPC was going to hurt if not cripple Russia..
so what now?
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:12 pm to TigersnJeeps
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In the early days, posters touted how the OPC was going to hurt if not cripple Russia..
so what now?
The government spending is out the wazoo. The Central Bank interest rate is 16% as opposed to the Fed Reserve at 5.25 to 5.5% which we all complain about. Putin is spending on the war out the wazoo for an economy the size of Texas.
Russia has to pay more for imports than other nations.
What Sal doesn't understand is the cash cow that refined products exports were.
That being said, totally outside my business was a request from a client to find tank space for imported gasoline, jet fuel and diesel. I had just happened to be in contact with a company turning a former refinery into a terminal with 4 million barrels of product storage idle and a Suez max tanker dock. I suspect the products might be coming from China.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:12 pm to Hateradedrink
Come on that's not what I'm talking about. I mock the Q people regularly.
Elon Musk refers to the matrix as "Extinctionists". That's who I'm talking about. This is the head of the WEF, Soros, Gates, the President of the EU, etc.
Elon Musk refers to the matrix as "Extinctionists". That's who I'm talking about. This is the head of the WEF, Soros, Gates, the President of the EU, etc.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:13 pm to SirWinston
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It's like 8 people who report to no one and who have unlimited kickback and coercion powers. Not that hard.
Well. Tell us about them. Who are they? Where are their offices? Who is their support staff? How do they launder money?
I mean, 8 people basically running the world would be exhausting. Like Tony Soprano levels of stress. Would definitely need therapy.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:45 pm to TigersnJeeps
"Nice uninsured oil tanker you have there... I'd hate to see anything happen to it?"
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:46 pm to SirWinston
When I encounter conspiracy theory fringe nut jobs like you, I always fall back on this beautiful quote from my favorite author, Cormac Mccarthy
quote:
The man who believes that the secrets of the world are forever hidden lives in mystery and fear. Superstition will drag him down. The rain will erode the deeds of his life.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:49 pm to No Colors
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Well. Tell us about them. Who are they? Where are their offices? Who is their support staff? How do they launder money?
I mean, 8 people basically running the world would be exhausting. Like Tony Soprano levels of stress. Would definitely need therapy.
Offices? The Vatican, The Bilderberg Hotel and a submarine in the Antarctic, duh
Who? The Pope, The Windsor Family, The Rothschilds, various and sundry reptilians, and Sherman Helmsley!
Stress? The adrenochrome high relieves that!!!
Open your eyes, No Colors!!!
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:57 pm to SirWinston
George Soros.
He was vilified for no reason when Victor Orban needed an "enemy of the people" to position himself against. Orban took a Soros grant in college.
He is no more "evil" than the Koch Brothers or Sheldon Adelson. He gives money to political causes he believes in... Conservatives do that, too.
He was vilified for no reason when Victor Orban needed an "enemy of the people" to position himself against. Orban took a Soros grant in college.
He is no more "evil" than the Koch Brothers or Sheldon Adelson. He gives money to political causes he believes in... Conservatives do that, too.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:24 pm to Lee B
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Open your eyes, No Colors!!!
I love being called a Sheeple and a fool for "believing the media" and all that. But when I ask for their version of reality, all I get is "wake up!".
"It was so brutally obvious that the Dims stole the election."
Oh yeah? Then explain exactly how they did it..... and then explain who "they" are while you're at it.
And the only answer you get is: "Imagine believing that election was real."
Still waiting.
Still waiting.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:45 pm to Lee B
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George Soros.
He was vilified for no reason when Victor Orban needed an "enemy of the people" to position himself against. Orban took a Soros grant in college.
Good Lord.
I knew that you were a leftist progressive nutcase.
Defending scum like Soros. That is just too much.
Your boy Biden is in the process of flying Palestinians to the US and giving them a pathway to citizenship. Are you celebrating tonight?
Leftists like you disgust the hell out of me.
Dumb shite
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 8:54 pm
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