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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:05 pm to Burhead
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:05 pm to Burhead
Russians have been fricking around in Moldova ever since they split from the USSR. Transistria has caused problems for the Moldovans and Ukrainians for decades with their Russian separatist bullshite. Whole Moldovan government resigned a few weeks ago due to Russian interference and their collapsing economy. Ukraine can’t have the Russians take control of a country on their western border they are boxed in enough as is. Plus there are 1500 Russian troops stationed in Transistria, going after them and eliminating the western threat while also giving some of their conscripts battle experience for the real offensive this spring makes sense. The problem though is how does Ukraine and the west explain them attacking a sovereign state who has stayed out of the war to the best of their abilities? Even if they only went after Transistria that is still a hostile attack on a sovereign nation, Russian backed separatists or not.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:07 pm to Burhead
"How about we take a whizz." Doesn't sound so good
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:27 pm to Nigel Farage
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The problem though is how does Ukraine and the west explain them attacking a sovereign state who has stayed out of the war to the best of their abilities? Even if they only went after Transistria that is still a hostile attack on a sovereign nation, Russian backed separatists or not.
Thought of this too. Only thing I can think of is working with Moldova to ensure it’s return to them postwar. For Moldova they get rid of the Russians and land returned. Ukraine gets rid of the Russians on their rear flank and gains a shitload of artillery from the ammo depot there. Win/win.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:30 pm to DabosDynasty
CIA director on face the nation believes Putin remains confident in Russia’s ability to outlast Ukraine/the west.
Burns, in a television interview, said the head of Russia's intelligence services had displayed in their November meeting "a sense of cockiness and hubris" that reflected Putin's own beliefs "that he can make time work for him, that he believes he can grind down the Ukrainians that he can wear down our European allies, that political fatigue will eventually set in."
I wonder if this intel on the state of Russian decision making isn’t what accelerated western delivery of more robust weapons.
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Burns, in a television interview, said the head of Russia's intelligence services had displayed in their November meeting "a sense of cockiness and hubris" that reflected Putin's own beliefs "that he can make time work for him, that he believes he can grind down the Ukrainians that he can wear down our European allies, that political fatigue will eventually set in."
I wonder if this intel on the state of Russian decision making isn’t what accelerated western delivery of more robust weapons.
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:47 pm to DabosDynasty
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Only thing I can think of is working with Moldova to ensure it’s return to them postwar.
There has been a lot of cooperation between Ukraine and Moldova recently. If Ukraine acts at the invitation of Moldova, only Russia can complain.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:28 pm to ned nederlander
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CIA director on face the nation believes Putin remains confident in Russia’s ability to outlast Ukraine/the west.
The Russian propagandist organizations are very well developed and include within their teams much the western media (and the Politics forum on Tiger Droppings). Their goal is to discourage western support for the Ukraine so that Russia can accomplish it's current expansionist goals. This is just one stage in Putin's long term plan to recreate the USSR and then, as was done by the Romans in their heyday, continue to expand it's power like a Greek Hydra.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:58 pm to TBoy
The issue is if the fight spills over into Moldova proper. Not sure how Romania would respond to that
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:29 pm to WestCoastAg
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The issue is if the fight spills over into Moldova proper. Not sure how Romania would respond to that
That would certainly be a problem, but any expansion of that kind would only occur as a result of Russian action. Ukraine has no apparent strategic interest in trying to conquer Moldova. Ukraine's interest is preventing Russians from invading Ukraine from that side of the country.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:And once again, Bill Mauldin knew what to say:
No, in all seriousness, a lot of guys on both sides are about to figure out very quickly that they need new boots.
I guess it's another reminder of how WWI-II ish this is.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:23 pm to GOP_Tiger
I would think they keep the wheeled HIMARS back off the front line but they use the M270 when they need to get close to the front to fire. They are protected better than the M142s are, they deliver twice the payload and most importantly they are tracked so the risk of getting stuck is not as great. I’m not sure I would be risking those systems though even if more are coming but those will be brand new from the factory in Arkansas and will take a little time. This muddy season is a benefit to Ukraine in my opinion. Russia has already started their pitiful offensive and are bogged down in the mud. This buys Ukraine much needed time to get Leopards, Challengers and Bradleys in country and ready for when it dries up and allows movement again. I doubt we see any Abrams in country until late summer.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:37 pm to LSUPilot07
One day I wish we would be the ones to just say FU on all this bullshite. What are the Russians going to do declare war on NATO? Seriously
link=(LINK make threats on Moldovan Situation [/link]
link=(LINK make threats on Moldovan Situation [/link]
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:47 pm to TutHillTiger
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What are the Russians going to do declare war on NATO
with that Narcissistic (sp) prick in charge, he probly would
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:53 pm to Jim Rockford
An update from a few days back from the best mapper out there. Right click on a map and open in a new tab to zoom in.
https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1628213037768273922
https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1628213037768273922
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/ Ukraine TVD, 8-19 FEB 23. The past 2 weeks of February saw the Russian Winter Offensive intensify as major pushes continued in Kreminna, Bakhmut, and Vuhledar. Russian made few gains, Ukrainian defenses continue to hold. #UkraineRussiaWar #RussianArmy #UkraineFrontLines
2/ Operational Terms. To assist in easy of comprehension of the threads graphics, here is a list of commonly used terms and their definitions. (note: I am still refining and updating this list, please bear with me as I do, thank you).
3/ Luhansk OD. Russian forces press their attack in the Kreminna area. Svatove has been reinforced by the 98th GABD, signaling a Russian intent to push toward Kupyansk soon. UKR forces will continue to defend in depth & transition to the offense when opportunities arise. #Luhansk
4/ Kreminna AO. The 144th Guards Motorized Rifle Division supported by the 90th Guards Tank Division, 30th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade, and BARS Battalions continue their attack south through the Kreminna Forest towards Serebryanka. Attacks westward have stalled. #Kreminna
5/ Donetsk OD. Donetsk Oblast remains the decisive OD for Russian Ground Forces. If Russian Airborne & Wagner Group units can complete their steady progress in Bakhmut in the coming weeks it increases the likelihood of a 2d Army Corps supported attack towards Siversk. #Donetsk
6/ Bakhmut AO. Bakhmut remains the most critical Objective Point of Maneuver in the Ukrainian TVD. With the fall of Krasna Hora & Paraskovilka & steady advances west from Blahodatne, Russian forces are positioned to force a general withdrawal from Bakhmut. #Bakhmut
7/ Zaporizhzhia OD. The SVRF continues its efforts to capture Orkhiv and Vuhledar at whatever cost is required. Russian forces have found no success in the Vuhledar region. The high loss in troops & equipment have grinded larger scale action to a stand still. #Zaporizhzhia
8/ Vuhledar AO. The Russian attempt to seize Vuhledar will likely remain a top priority through the spring. High losses have slowed the pace of operations, however newly arrived units from the Melitopol area & VMF replacements are being integrated for new assaults. #Vuhledar
9/ Kherson OD. Russian forces will continue an active defense on the Dnipro River with a focus on gaining control over the Dnipro Delta. UKR forces will continue to probe Russian defenses while missile & artillery strikes target logistic nodes in Kherson and Crimea. #Kherson
10/ Ukraine OTMO. The Black Seas Fleet remains focused on force protection of vessels, facilities, & personnel rather than offensive operations or active patrolling of sea lanes & the northern Black Sea coast / littoral. #Sevastopol
11/ Ukraine SVKO. Russian aerospace forces continue to prioritize targeting Ukrainian critical infrastructure & troop concentrations over suppression of Ukrainian air defenses. Ukrainian HIMARS & UCAVs will continue targeting Russian supply & command nodes. #airdefensefofukraine
12/ This is another short update focused on theater wide actions of the past two weeks. I am starting to get back into the rhythm of regular updates and will likely start to increase content in the coming weeks. Thank you for your patients, suggestions, & continued support.
13/ This open-source operational summary of the Ukrainian TVD is based on information from the ZSU & VSRF daily operations briefs, various Ukrainian & Russian Telegram channels, western intel agencies public statements, military analysts, & my own professional experience.
14/ Any errors to the information presented here is strictly my own and will be corrected as soon as it is discovered.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:28 pm to Jim Rockford
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It begins. China has published a map with Chinese names for eight Russian cities in Siberia.
Interesting. China doesn’t do anything for free in the end.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:45 pm to Chromdome35
Saw this online no idea if it’s accurate but Russia may only have 2 airworthy A-50 AWACS left. If so that’s absolutely amazing news for Ukraine and really pathetic on Russia to neglect am area so crucial to air operations. That would mean Russia would basically have to keep both 30-40 year old A-50s in the air on rotation which will never happen. Planes that old need more and more small fixes on it which take it off the flight line for repairs. AWACS and tankers are both huge targets in combat because you can’t function an air campaign without them.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:55 pm to LSUPilot07
So much for my pros and cons earlier
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:01 pm to DabosDynasty
Not saying it wouldn't be a big boom, but thousands of tons going off in hours or days vs going off in a fraction of a second are two different things.
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:03 pm to Jim Rockford
Potentially takes part of the prize off the table though.
If it were rigged to go by them, wouldn’t it all basically go in sync?
If it were rigged to go by them, wouldn’t it all basically go in sync?
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:14 pm to DabosDynasty
Tarps must be real expensive there
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