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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5766 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Things may be coming to a head in Kherson pretty soon if these reports prove true.


They probably know Ukraine is telling civilians to leave also. It makes sense that the less civilians, the better for Ukraine to bombard the occupying Russian forces. Bring in the artillery before charging straight on.
Posted by Anfield Road
Home of the Blue Turf
Member since May 2012
1942 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:09 pm to
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That’s it? You think capitulating to Putin because he has threatened nukes makes us safer?

How does that impact Putin’s future decision making? China? North Korea? Iran? You can’t be this simple minded.



We avoided a world war by giving Charlie Chaplin the Sudetenland. It works all the time.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Didn't the pope back Hitler in some way during wwII. Just woke up and don't know if I have my facts straight.


BKR posted a link but basically (at least in Germany) the Catholics were afraid of also being persecuted as some priests were dying communion to SS persons. So the Church struck a deal that was basically we won't do anything against you so long as you don't do anything against us.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Either way the country is thrown into chaos. That is not the case with Ukraine.


Wait. So China threatening Taiwan with nukes without an active invasion throws Taiwan into chaos, but Russia threatening Ukraine with nukes during an active invasion does not throw Ukraine into chaos?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:23 pm to
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What if Putin is satisfied with Donbas and Crimea?


You realize they've already tried to take more than that right?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6881 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:30 pm to
Anything happening in the war in Ukraine today vs the war in this thread?
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Bingo. I don’t understand how anyone would think appeasement of Russia’s land grab using force and nuclear threats would not embolden China into taking similar action.



Well if you've been following his logic

1) on board with US support because if Russia succeeded then China would invade Taiwan

2) after Russia stalled (which he believes has delayed the Taiwan invasion by at least 5 years), he wants to pull all US support because it could lead to nuclear war

3) somehow pulling all of our support will not only NOT embolden China to just deal with short term consequences but will also lessen the likelihood of China invading Taiwan long term.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Anything happening in the war in Ukraine today vs the war in this thread?


Most things I've seen have been about bridge repairs and Kherson calling for evacuation. Haven't seen much coverage beyond that

ETA although this just got posted

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The governor of the #Belgorod region reported the explosion of an ammunition depot.

"In the village of the Belgorod region, as a result of the shelling of the AFU, an ammunition depot exploded. According to preliminary data, there are no victims or injured," the governor said


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This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Russian Governor in Kherson is calling for an evacuation of the city and help from Moscow in executing this evacuation



Apparently it's started as well

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The Russian Government is reportedly beginning to “Evacuate Civilians” from the illegally annexed Kherson Region of Eastern Ukraine, these Civilians will be relocated to the Rostov Region and other areas near the Ukrainian Border.

These “Evacuations” were suggested by Kherson Occupational Authorities and are reportedly completely optional.


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Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4434 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Next 24 hours Ukes are going to start another big offensive. Potentially “the big one” (Zap). Don’t ask me how I know I know.
Next 24 hours Russian propagandists are going to announce the total crushing of a major Ukrainian offensive. Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by Celtic Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
615 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Why do administrators disappear at the same time politics come over here?


it never fails. I see a bunch of new pages, think something has happened (especially today, as I heard of new bombings by Russia this morning). go to the thread and it's 8 pages of the same person making the same batshit insane, off-topic spam posts and calling names, despite being warned to avoid the thread all together, and normally sane people spending pages responding to it. every. single. time.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36465 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Anything happening in the war in Ukraine today vs the war in this thread?




Slow day so far. The biggest development is that OML no longer believes the North Korea narrative, whatever that entails.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35674 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:46 pm to
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For them, everything happens because of the West, regardless of the actual facts on the ground.


For them, everything is through the perspective of partisan US politics. It gets to a point where political actors in the United States are the only ones with agency.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9743 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:47 pm to
Conservation is how they have their reserve storage 95% full. This is not new but apparently to you it is.

Likely have 1 trillion cubic feet still in storage after winter is over. That is what is forecast by other than clueless media persons
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9743 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:49 pm to
What idiot came up with this stupid clown meme because it is not true but to those with 2 year old mentality
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Anything happening in the war in Ukraine today vs the war in this thread?


Belarusian sources are saying Luka has ordered "covert" mobilization and that only rural communities will report first but not the larger cities. They are saying it could be to support the incoming Russian forces but have said if the call-ups reach 5,000 they could be forming a strike group or 10,000 or more multiple strike groups.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9914 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Four Russian attack helicopters were shot down by Ukrainian forces in 18 minutes yesterday, officials in Kyiv said.

The country’s general staff said the helicopters were attacked by missile units in southern Ukraine. They were all thought to be two-seat Ka-52s. It is unclear whether the crews ejected before they were shot down between 8.40am and 8.58am local time.

The helicopters were providing support for Russian troops. The general staff was seeking confirmation that another two Russian helicopters had been shot down about the same time. Ukraine says it has destroyed 234 Russian helicopters and 268 aircraft since the war began in February.


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Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
2504 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:18 pm to
Only when Republicans are the President.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21555 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:18 pm to
The political board can't get enough attention for them so they come here. So administrators stop them, some don't. Even though they are not very smart, they seem to know which administrators will allow their sewage here.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31653 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:25 pm to
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Anything happening in the war in Ukraine today vs the war in this thread?


i mean we did get a 1st person view of a russian vs ukraine drone fight

LINK

we have regressed full fricking circle since WW1. Instead of drive by in planes with the pilot practically shooting out the equivelent of a window......we have fights between quadcopters. Things we would almost consider toys are not being used in the most hotly contested war in the last 30 years :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


oh and suicide drones are becoming more prevelant
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