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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:43 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:43 pm to Jim Rockford
That kind of trolling is why I had earnest respect for our buddy Ruff Fish. He made no bones about who he was, even the screen name is a giveaway for someone posting with a pro-Russian Federation bent.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:52 pm to doubleb
If they're winning anyway, then they obviously don't need tens of billions of American aid. The regional powers can take care of their own region.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:28 am to Obtuse1
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This is true but yield can be reduced with things like lead tampers.
Yeah good point.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:04 am to Darth_Vader
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Ukraine gave up its entire nuclear arsenal.
The common narrative is that Ukraine gave up deterrence when agreeing to give up the nuclear arsenal, when in fact they never had operational control of these weapons.
The Russian's had begun removing the most mobile and usable of the weapons (tactical nukes) even before the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Of the strategic assets, the ICBM's had a range of 5,000km to 10,000km, having been designed to hit targets in the U.S. Virtually unusable as a deterrent because only the Russian Far East could have been retargeted. The remaining ALCM's on bomber platforms for shorter range delivery could have threatened the Western/European portion of Russia, had not the Russian's disabled their targeting capacity early on in the process.
And a host of other issues... the lack of a nuclear weapons program and the attendant uranium enrichment and plutonium facilities, survivability, etc, etc.
SAGE Journal's Was Ukraine's Nuclear Disarmament a Blunder?
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 2:28 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 4:35 am to MNCTigah
quote:Absurd how glib you are about Ukraine surrendering the 3rd largest nuclear stockpile in the world. Are you suggesting that it was no big deal what Ukraine did?
The common narrative is that Ukraine gave up deterrence when agreeing to give up the nuclear arsenal, when in fact they never had operational control of these weapons.
1) I'm certain sane leaders in the US & Europe weren't comfortable with a possible rogue nation with nukes pointed at them. Hoping that Ukraine cannot control them. That's even more frightening having a rogue state with out of control nukes.
2) I'm sure oil rich nations like Iran, Iraq, Libya or even N. Korea or other rogue actors would love to have purchased some nuclear components from this poor ex Soviet state to advance their programs. (Ex Soviet states were notorious for selling off old weapons on the black market).
3) The potential for a horrible nuclear accident because Ukraine can't maintain the weapons.
4) Maybe prevented a military intervention to secure these nukes because NATO/ US were determined to denuclearize Ukraine.
5) The 3rd largest nuclear stockpile in the world was peacefully surrendered & completely dismantled .Sounds like a great thing Ukraine agreed to.
Ukraine gave up these weapons for security assurances & respect to their sovereignty. It's time for the US / UK etc....to stand up to their commitments after Ukraine was stabbed in the back by Russia. Stop hijacking the thread rehashing this nonsense.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:00 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 3 October 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
On 29 September 2022, President Putin addressed his National Security Council on the 'partial mobilisation' he had announced on 21 September. He said, 'a lot of questions are being raised during this mobilisation campaign, and we must promptly correct our mistakes and not repeat them'.
Putin's unusually rapid acknowledgement of problems highlights the dysfunction of the mobilisation over its first week. Local officials are likely unclear on the exact scope and legal rationale of the campaign. They have almost certainly drafted some personnel who are outside the definitions claimed by Putin and the Ministry of Defence.
As drafted reservists continue to assemble at tented transit camps, Russian officials are likely struggling to provide training and in finding officers to lead new units.
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UPDATE ON UKRAINE 3 October 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
On 29 September 2022, President Putin addressed his National Security Council on the 'partial mobilisation' he had announced on 21 September. He said, 'a lot of questions are being raised during this mobilisation campaign, and we must promptly correct our mistakes and not repeat them'.
Putin's unusually rapid acknowledgement of problems highlights the dysfunction of the mobilisation over its first week. Local officials are likely unclear on the exact scope and legal rationale of the campaign. They have almost certainly drafted some personnel who are outside the definitions claimed by Putin and the Ministry of Defence.
As drafted reservists continue to assemble at tented transit camps, Russian officials are likely struggling to provide training and in finding officers to lead new units.
Lorem ipsum
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:14 am to Obtuse1
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Absolutely. If the 3H has not been replaced since Soviet times it would be very for it to have decayed to the point less than 10% of the 3H remained. I am not sure if Tritium boosting is directly proportional to the available 3H but I would assume it is so it is (very?) possible their boosted nukes are actually near unboosted yields. However, keep in mind the majority of Russia's tac nukes are in the 10+ kilo-ton yield range unboosted. To put that in perspective Little Boy (Hiroshima) was only 15 kilo-ton yield and Fat Man (Nagasaki) was 21 kilo-tons so we are still talking about a big (dirty) boom.
The US doesn't really play the tac nuke game anymore because we have modern conventional weapon delivery systems that more or less negate the benefit of tac nukes given their laundry list of negatives and contra-indications. Tac nukes are primarily for militaries that are concerned that they will not be able to put enough conventional munitions on precise targets in the battlespace.
Interesting. Thanks for the education.
Chromedome, deservedly so, gets recognition for his mapping and subsequent analysis, you definitely need some recognition for your contributions on munitions, field knowledge, and bridges.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:20 am to Jim Rockford
ISW Oct 2 update
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This campaign assessment special edition focuses on dramatic changes in the Russian information space following the Russian defeat around Lyman and in Kharkiv Oblast and amid the failures of Russia’s partial mobilization. Ukrainian forces made continued gains around Lyman, Donetsk Oblast, and have broken through Russian defensive positions in northeastern Kherson Oblast. Those developments are summarized briefly and will be covered in more detail tomorrow when more confirmation is available.
The Russian defeat in Kharkiv Oblast and Lyman, combined with the Kremlin’s failure to conduct partial mobilization effectively and fairly are fundamentally changing the Russian information space
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The Russian information space has significantly deviated from the narratives preferred by the Kremlin and the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) that things are generally under control
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The Kremlin’s declaration of partial mobilization exposed the general Russian public to the consequences of the defeat around Kharkiv and then at Lyman, shattering the Kremlin’s efforts to portray the war as limited and generally successful.
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Putin relies on controlling the information space in Russia to safeguard his regime much more than on the kind of massive oppression apparatus the Soviet Union used, making disorder in the information space potentially even more dangerous to Putin than it was to the Soviets.
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Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and Wagner Private Military Company financier Evgeniy Prigozhin have further damaged the Kremlin’s vulnerable narratives during and after the fall of Lyman.
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Kadyrov and Prigozhin’s statement likely publicly undermined Putin’s leadership, possibly inadvertently.
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Putin likely recognizes the dangerous path Kadyrov and Prigozhin had begun to walk, prompting push-back by Kremlin-controlled voices and milbloggers against the direct critiques of military commanders.
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Putin has not previously censored nationalist milblogger figures, Kadyrov, war correspondents, and former proxy officials, likely because he has seen them as voices pushing for his preferred policies that Russians willing to support him are more likely to trust
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The milblogger community may begin to undermine Putin’s narratives to his core audience amidst the defeats and failures of the Russian war in Ukraine, however, especially as their narratives spread to mainstream Kremlin-controlled outlets.
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Putin may be experiencing an odd variant of the problems Mikhail Gorbachev encountered resulting from his glasnost’ (openness) policy.
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Key inflections in ongoing military operations on October 2:
Ukrainian forces continued to liberate settlements east and northeast of Lyman and have liberated Torske in Donetsk Oblast. Russian sources claimed that Russian forces withdrew from their positions northeast of Lyman, likely to positions around Kreminna and along the R66 Svatove-Kreminna highway.[24]
Ukrainian forces continued to advance on settlements east of Kupyansk and liberated Kisharivka in Kharkiv Oblast.[25]
Russian forces continued to launch unsuccessful assaults around Bakhmut, Vyimka, and Avdiivka.[26]
Ukrainian forces resumed counteroffensives in northern Kherson Oblast and have secured positions in Zolota Balka and Khreshchenivka.
Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces also liberated Shevchekivka and Lyubymivka, pushing Russian forces to new defensive positions around Mykailivka.[27]
Russian forces continued to target Kryvyi Rih and Mykolaiv Oblast with Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones.[28]
Russian State Duma MPs withdrew a law that would have given mobilized men a one-time payment of 300,000 rubles (about $4,980) and other benefits, without providing a reason for their decision.[29] Ukrainian military officials stated that Russian forces are forming a motorized rifle division with mobilized men from Crimea, Krasnodar Krai, and the Republic of Adygea.[30]
Russian President Vladimir Putin submitted a draft law to the State Duma on admitting the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, and Zaporizhia and Kherson Oblasts, to the Russian Federation.[31]
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:33 am to cypher
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:48 am to cypher
Seems that Russians have moved to try to stop the pincer movement from the west and allowed Ukr to come to 5 km from the dam.
LINK
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"It seems that the Russians are withdrawing from a number of settlements in the north of Beryslav district without a fight in order to reinforce more of the frontline villages"
LINK
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:11 am to CitizenK
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1576866013877919745?s=20&t=7f6SAioxEnnBZJ8jRCU1qw
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Despite sanctions, Russian made answer to HIMARS will soon arrive in Ukraine.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:21 am to Chromdome35
Rybar's map this morning, showing the deep Ukrainian advance in Kherson Oblast.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:23 am to Chromdome35
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Russian occupying forces have begun forced mobilization of the local population in the territory of the temporarily occupied Melitopol district, – Melitopol mayor Ivan Fedorov says.
Men just started getting caught on the streets. We have a large number of cases over the weekend when men of different ages and physical fitness are approached and asked to come to the commandant's office to be registered", – Fedorov says.
LINK
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:38 am to GOP_Tiger
The news from Ukraine's northeast is that Ukrainian troops took Borova and have begun to push east towards Svatove. The Ukrainian forces in the Kupiansk area are pushing south to meet them, so that Ukraine will have full control of both sides of the Oskil south of Kupiansk.
Ukraine is also already putting significant pressure on Kreminna, and there are reports of fighting on the outskirts of Lysychansk.
Edit: here's last nights @War_Mapper map for reference, which still shows Borova as Russian-held (it's at the far west of Russian-held territory on this map).
Ukraine is also already putting significant pressure on Kreminna, and there are reports of fighting on the outskirts of Lysychansk.
Edit: here's last nights @War_Mapper map for reference, which still shows Borova as Russian-held (it's at the far west of Russian-held territory on this map).
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 7:46 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:39 am to Chromdome35
That cannon could also be Russia's reserve artillery!
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:41 am to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine has reached much further south along the river, though that might be recon units roaming freely behind Russia's lines.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:45 am to Chromdome35
What is that, a ww1 artillery piece?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:49 am to jeffsdad
It is the Tsar Cannon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Cannon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Cannon
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The Tsar Cannon (Russian: ????-?????, Tsar'-pushka) is a large early modern period artillery piece (known as a bombarda in Russian) on display on the grounds of the Moscow Kremlin. It is a monument of Russian artillery casting art, cast in bronze in 1586 in Moscow, by the Russian master bronze caster Andrey Chokhov. Mostly of symbolic impact, it was never used in a war. However, the cannon bears traces of at least one firing.[1] Per the Guinness Book of Records it is the largest bombard by caliber in the world,[2] and it is a major tourist attraction in the ensemble of the Moscow Kremlin.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 7:51 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:54 am to Chromdome35
I doubt that train even makes it to the front before getting blown up/derailed
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:56 am to Chromdome35
I saw one of those at the circus!
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