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Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:31 am to Geekboy
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Does anyone actually give a shite about the Oscars anymore?
When they give Best Picture to Departed, but not Goodfellas, or Raging Bull, you realize they're just a bunch of old people who are like referees giving "make up calls" to aging directors and stars that didn't get it when they deserved it.
I love the Departed and am fine with it winning best picture...its all the atrocious snubs before that.
No Country for Old Men and The King's Speech were the last two I thought were really deserving
These days you gotta be woke...Green Book, 12 years a Slave, Crash, etc to really have decent shot.
Give me the story of a non-binary pan-sexual escaped slave and I'll give you a statue.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 9:33 am
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:37 am to sacrathetic
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In 2020, the US population was about 331,000,000 and about 23,600,000 watched the Oscars, or about 7.1% of the population.
Surprised the latter was that high.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:49 am to Wally Sparks
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In 2020, the US population was about 331,000,000 and about 23,600,000 watched the Oscars, or about 7.1% of the population.
Surprised the latter was that high.
There’s a sizable segment of the US population conditioned to think the Oscars actually matter. Like the Best Picture is definitively the “Best” Picture of the year in the same way sports teams are definitive champions.
It doesn’t mean anything. You can still watch the other movies that lost or weren’t even nominated. It doesn’t affect your life.
The only thing I look at are the nominations lists to find out about movies I may have missed and to check them out.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 9:54 am to JW
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And Hollywood isn't the only industry that celebrates their top talent ... All Star games, Rock n Roll HOF inductions, etc etc.
List of circle jerks.
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As a member of the Academy .. i sincerely don't care if you watch or not.
Some people invest on the way up, and JW invests on the way down.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:01 am to RollTide1987
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then took an absolute nose dive in 2018 from where it truly hasn't recovered
"Trump Effect"
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:09 am to RollTide1987
While the political part of the speeches is probably a part of the decline, I think it has more to do with the way the system has morphed over the past decade.
Movies that people have actually watched in theaters are not getting nominated for Best Picture anymore. Go back and look at the 90s for example. You had movies like Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Silence of the Lambs, Apollo 13, The Sixth Sense, Dances with Wolves, Unforgiven, etc.
These movies were blockbusters that also had a chance to actually win the award. Now, the blockbusters are there because the Academy feels obligated to put them there.
Everyone of those movies were box office hits as well as legitimately good movies.
It is less about being woke and political than it is about having movies nominated that people have actually seen and cared about.
How many people have actually seen a Best Picture winner from the past 5 years? I bet the answer is smaller than at any other time in the Academy's history.
Movies that people have actually watched in theaters are not getting nominated for Best Picture anymore. Go back and look at the 90s for example. You had movies like Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Silence of the Lambs, Apollo 13, The Sixth Sense, Dances with Wolves, Unforgiven, etc.
These movies were blockbusters that also had a chance to actually win the award. Now, the blockbusters are there because the Academy feels obligated to put them there.
Everyone of those movies were box office hits as well as legitimately good movies.
It is less about being woke and political than it is about having movies nominated that people have actually seen and cared about.
How many people have actually seen a Best Picture winner from the past 5 years? I bet the answer is smaller than at any other time in the Academy's history.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:54 am to GentlemanTiger
I used to look forward to the Oscars every year. I love movies and would typically see as many of the nominated movies as I could. Now, I follow the Oscars, but don’t watch anymore because:
The lead in from Guild awards has also ruined any suspense of who is going to win. There’s been a few surprises in the last couple of years, but that’s been rare in major categories.
I agree that The Academy shying away from major blockbusters contributes to the lack of viewership. Nominating blockbusters helped the average moviegoer feel connected to the awards even if that film didn’t win.
I also blame the new “ranking” system of voting where a film has to be ranked #1 on at least one ballot to win Best Picture. Ranking points are given to each of the voters’ preferences and it allows films to win that might not have otherwise in previous years because more people ranked that one #2 after their # 1 film is eliminated. That’s led to a couple of years where a film has won a slew of awards (Gravity, La La Land) and not won Best Picture. The films that won BP those years barely won half the awards the other two did. That doesn’t make sense to the viewing audience. How can Gravity win 7 awards (including Direction, Score, Editing, and Cinematography) and not win Best Picture?
The Academy used to boo people off the stage for making political speeches. Now, people are forced to listen to diatribes instead of gratitude. It’s a turn off.
The lead in from Guild awards has also ruined any suspense of who is going to win. There’s been a few surprises in the last couple of years, but that’s been rare in major categories.
I agree that The Academy shying away from major blockbusters contributes to the lack of viewership. Nominating blockbusters helped the average moviegoer feel connected to the awards even if that film didn’t win.
I also blame the new “ranking” system of voting where a film has to be ranked #1 on at least one ballot to win Best Picture. Ranking points are given to each of the voters’ preferences and it allows films to win that might not have otherwise in previous years because more people ranked that one #2 after their # 1 film is eliminated. That’s led to a couple of years where a film has won a slew of awards (Gravity, La La Land) and not won Best Picture. The films that won BP those years barely won half the awards the other two did. That doesn’t make sense to the viewing audience. How can Gravity win 7 awards (including Direction, Score, Editing, and Cinematography) and not win Best Picture?
The Academy used to boo people off the stage for making political speeches. Now, people are forced to listen to diatribes instead of gratitude. It’s a turn off.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:13 am to Geekboy
We'll have seven to ten pages of people who couldn't care less about the Oscars talking about the Oscars.
As we do every year.
Extra points for posters who hate Hollywood and actors but frequent the Movie/TV board.
As we do every year.
Extra points for posters who hate Hollywood and actors but frequent the Movie/TV board.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:29 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Extra points for posters who hate Hollywood and actors but frequent the Movie/TV board.
"I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him."
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:32 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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You do. You started a thread about it and everything.
This is a gotcha that is fricking stupid.
You can note that something has lost its relevance and wish to discuss that without caring about it lol. That’s so stupid.
“We need to breakup. I don’t care about you anymore”
“Clearly you do. You called me and broke up with me! Is that something someone who didn’t care would do? Checkmate!”
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:50 pm to Hester Carries
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“We need to breakup. I don’t care about you anymore”
“Clearly you do. You called me and broke up with me! Is that something someone who didn’t care would do? Checkmate!”
If you call her up every time you hear about her, just to remind her that you don't want to date her... THAT's what these threads are.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 5:07 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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If you call her up every time you hear about her, just to remind her that you don't want to date her... THAT's what these threads are.
The focus isn’t on the Oscars. It’s on the difference in relevance/prestige/importance of the Oscar’s today vs. the past.
Each year that gap gets bigger. Even for people that still like the Oscars this is undeniable.
So a new thread is valid as the gap is now bigger and new.
This isn’t a thread about the Oscar’s. It’s about how far its fallen in prestige.
Like the only way to discuss that fewer and fewer people care about something is just to passively notice that less people are discussing it? Thats ridiculous.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 2/9/22 at 5:08 pm to Geekboy
Haven't cared for decades to be honest. Just a bunch of self-serving Hollywood elite patting themselves on the back for some of the most shite cinema produced in decades.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 5:08 pm to BigBobbyStorey
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its just a group of pedos and addicts patting each other on the back.
So it's a political convention, only with hotter looking people.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:07 pm to PowerTool
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George Clooney's smug speech that inspired a South Park episode was way back in 2006.
It was so bad that even Keith Olbermann mocked him for it.
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