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Can therapy be done effectively over Zoom?

Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:27 am
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:27 am
... Or is face to face the better option? I Have a young friend who thinks all of life can be experienced on a screen. She needs some direction, but only wants therapists who work by Zoom. Can't see how this can be effective with a screen between you and the therapist, and your friends texts popping up in the corner of your view during the day session. I think young people have lost the ability to communicate in person and this is just another outgrowth of that problem.
What say you?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:28 am to
Zoom cannot replicate the nuance of in person conversation
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:28 am to
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Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:28 am to
Will need photos to make a proper ruling on the question at hand.
Posted by TexasTiger90
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:30 am to
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your friends texts popping up in the corner of your view during the day session
That's on the person not fully committing to the conversation. No different than a face-to-face where one person cannot bear to go 3 min without looking at their phones.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:32 am to
Not a chance.

Can't do it masked either.

Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:35 am to
yes. It's a great option once you have established a relationship with the therapist.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:36 am to
There are pros and cons like with anything.

As a therapist, I prefer in-person particularly with newer clients that I don’t know well largely because part of our job is observing things like body language/hygiene/etc. for a mental status exam. I also would be very leery of using it with a client that has a history of suicidal ideation or attempts, as you want to make sure you can easily access that client in case of a crisis and potential transport to a hospital.

That said, I think it can be a very useful utility for folks who don’t have easy access to in-person sessions. I have a couple clients that are Telehealth only working here in Louisville that are in places like Eastern Kentucky. I was also able to move my clients to Telehealth today temporarily while we’re dealing with an ice storm. So we don’t lose continuity of those services.

It can also be beneficial to see your client in their own environment. Especially if they’re logging in from home.

Also, when you’re using therapy online you’re using a professional Zoom platform or another HIPAA approved platform where you can’t just log anyone on. I also ask my clients to put away their phones and the like during our sessions.

ETA: It has also been beneficial with clients who have crippling anxiety or have difficulty leaving the home.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 9:39 am
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:36 am to
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Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:48 am to
quote:

but only wants therapists who work by Zoom


Never leaving the house certainly isn't helpful for mental health
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:56 am to
With my therapist we’re currently doing Zoom. He was my in-person therapist for years, but then I moved but wanted to keep him. I also travel a ton for work, so it’s good for my schedule when all I need to do is pull over to the side of the road. It works for me, but that may be because we had in-person sessions for years.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 9:57 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:58 am to
quote:

What say you?



Teens and young adults need to have their phones forcibly taken from them and be thrown into nature for a few weeks to get the electronic toxin out their system
Posted by King of Battle
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:10 am to
My wife had a doctor’s appt over zoom a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty funny watching her hold the camera up to her nose so the doctor could look up her nostrils
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Teens and young adults need to have their phones forcibly taken from them and be thrown into nature for a few weeks to get the electronic toxin out their system


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Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:20 am to
My therapist has been doing sessions via face time since pandemic. I don’t mind it….but I already had an established patient-therapist relationship with him.

He is 73 with some health issues so I can understand him wanting to be cautious when he can. I think he still does some in person sessions for other clients.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Teens and young adults need to have their phones forcibly taken from them and be thrown into nature for a few weeks to get the electronic toxin out their system

and gen Xers and boomers
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:23 am to
I'm sure it depends on the person and their approach to therapy.

I did a few sessions years ago and I don't think it would have been a major hindrance, though I'm obviously not an expert. Given I'd signed up for it I was willing to put it all out there without any walls for the counselor to tear down, etc. If someone is viewing it as healthcare and transactional - I'm going to a professional for help and it's in my interest to supply them with everything they need to help me (info, fears, vulnerabilities, whatever) - I don't see it'd be a major issue.

If someone needs to build trust to let their guard down, etc. - Seems like it'd be harder. Whether it would be a hindrance for the therapist seems like a valid, separate issue.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Can therapy be done effectively over Zoom?


Probably not for massage therapists or physical therapists.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8223 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:23 am to
In person is much better. But Zoom is better than nothing. Don’t down her because she wants to do Zoom. Encourage her to start the therapy process however she feels most comfortable. The most important thing is she’s admitting she needs help. Maybe she’ll get to the point where she wants to start taking to a Therapist in person.
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
16796 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:24 am to
Not sure if you know this, but Telepsychiatry is and has already been a big thing....
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