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Spinoff. What's Wrong with Hunting Today?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:48 pm
In the Shockey thread I saw several comments about the "state of hunting" and what may or may not have caused the issues we face today.
In your opinion, currently what are the most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
In your opinion, currently what are the most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 1:50 pm
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:49 pm to geauxbrown
In short, social media
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:51 pm to oleyeller
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Spinoff. What's Wrong with Hunting Today?
In short, social media
If you have time, I would love to hear your thoughts on this and how it is being detrimental to our future.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:51 pm to oleyeller
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In short, social media
That's what's wrong with everything.
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In your opinion, currently what are the most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
I think that habitat loss is one of the most pressing issues. It's easier to leverage anti hunting legislation if most folks just shrug because they don't have any place to hunt anyways.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:51 pm to geauxbrown
In GA, it's land and access.
Leases are triple what they were 10 years ago. And handshake deals with private land owners are a thing of the past.
Leases are triple what they were 10 years ago. And handshake deals with private land owners are a thing of the past.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:55 pm to deeprig9
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Leases are triple what they were 10 years ago. And handshake deals with private land owners are a thing of the past
Access, plain and simple has become one of, if not the biggest problem in my opinion. Problems beyond this almost seem like "first world problems" at this point.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:55 pm to geauxbrown
People are hunting for the likes and for the accolades, not because they just want to hunt. In other words, if Instagram didn't exist, the general feeling is that there would be a lot less people hunting and less pressure on the best public spots.
Not to mention, these Instagram hunters typically don't hunt the "right way" according to a lot of traditionalists. The sky blast ducks, only shoot deer with big horns, and generally are poor woodsmen who could care less about the broader scope of conservation and wildlife management.
Now get off my lawn.
Not to mention, these Instagram hunters typically don't hunt the "right way" according to a lot of traditionalists. The sky blast ducks, only shoot deer with big horns, and generally are poor woodsmen who could care less about the broader scope of conservation and wildlife management.
Now get off my lawn.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:57 pm to geauxbrown
Social Media. Nearly every issue can be tied back to social media.
Lease prices increasing because people see big bucks on social media and lease the land out from under others.
Public lands being overrun because of posts on social media showing trophy animals being harvested off the particular property.
Infighting between hunting subgroups. I.e., dog hunters vs still hunters. Compound bow hunters vs crossbow hunters. Small game vs deer hunters. Old timers vs young guns.
The pushing of trophy hunting as superior. Go look at any hunting page on Facebook, and you will find arguments about managing for big deer and people killing deer for anything other than big racks being labeled as bad.
Everything can be tied back to social media.
Lease prices increasing because people see big bucks on social media and lease the land out from under others.
Public lands being overrun because of posts on social media showing trophy animals being harvested off the particular property.
Infighting between hunting subgroups. I.e., dog hunters vs still hunters. Compound bow hunters vs crossbow hunters. Small game vs deer hunters. Old timers vs young guns.
The pushing of trophy hunting as superior. Go look at any hunting page on Facebook, and you will find arguments about managing for big deer and people killing deer for anything other than big racks being labeled as bad.
Everything can be tied back to social media.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:57 pm to geauxbrown
Instagram and YouTube
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:58 pm to geauxbrown
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In your opinion, currently what are the most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
Inflation.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:58 pm to geauxbrown
Most pressing issue is I can’t buy enough ammo lately. 
Idk if I could pin down the biggest issue.
Young hunter recruitment
Deer herd diseases
Social media hunters shaming other hunters because their deer wasn’t big/old enough
Hard to get a decent piece of private land (I know some guys that would absolutely never hunt public because they don’t trust all the idiots in the woods with them)
Idk if I could pin down the biggest issue.
Young hunter recruitment
Deer herd diseases
Social media hunters shaming other hunters because their deer wasn’t big/old enough
Hard to get a decent piece of private land (I know some guys that would absolutely never hunt public because they don’t trust all the idiots in the woods with them)
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:58 pm to The Last Coco
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if Instagram didn't exist, the general feeling is that there would be a lot less people hunting and less pressure on the best public spots.
There were 15,000,000 hunting license sold in 2004 and just a little over that number in 2021. From the surface it doesn't appear that Instagram or social media have helped create any new hunters.
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The sky blast ducks,
These guys have been around forever.
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only shoot deer with big horns, and generally are poor woodsmen who could care less about the broader scope of conservation and wildlife management.
The vast majority of guys I know that pursue big deer do a lot more for the habitat than your typical meat hunters.
Now I'll get off your lawn.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:58 pm to oleyeller
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social media
Yep.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:00 pm to geauxbrown
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In your opinion, currently what are the most pressing issues that could potentially endanger hunting?
Greed
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:02 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Lease prices increasing because people see big bucks on social media and lease the land out from under others
I've seen this happen, but to believe that hunting would be immune to supply and demand would be crazy.
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Public lands being overrun because of posts on social media showing trophy animals being harvested off the particular property.
I guess at my age I've seen the crush on public lands east of the Mississippi for a long time now.
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Infighting between hunting subgroups. I.e., dog hunters vs still hunters. Compound bow hunters vs crossbow hunters. Small game vs deer hunters. Old timers vs young guns.
Good point
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The pushing of trophy hunting as superior. Go look at any hunting page on Facebook, and you will find arguments about managing for big deer and people killing deer for anything other than big racks being labeled as bad.
As I've stated in this thread, I tend to side with guys who are working and spending the money to create better habitat, which equals better herd health. I don't agree with anyone belittling someone for killing a deer that makes them happy and it is a problem for sure.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:03 pm to Bamawaterfowl
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Greed
Greed or supply and demand?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:04 pm to upgrade
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Social media hunters shaming other hunters because their deer wasn’t big/old enough
As someone posted earlier in the Shockey thread. Seems we would learn our lesson and not post things to social media.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:06 pm to geauxbrown
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There were 15,000,000 hunting license sold in 2004 and just a little over that number in 2021. From the surface it doesn't appear that Instagram or social media have helped create any new hunters.
Similar thread to this on the GA outdoors board pointed out this same stat. You can't blame social media for more hunters because, in fact, there aren't more hunters.
The problem is the same amount of hunters on less land.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:07 pm to oleyeller
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short, social media
Causes soooooo many problems
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:09 pm to geauxbrown
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If you have time, I would love to hear your thoughts on this and how it is being detrimental to our future.
Its more about getting the likes on a picture now, than the time spent outdoors with family and friends. Every hunt is measured in inches, and likes now. Obviously as hunters we all like to take a picture and show our friends. But even doing so in an innocent way now will draw ridicule. "Oh he is less than 130", "oh he could have grown another year or two". There is never "thats a good deer, congrats" anymore... without "what did it score".
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