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Buying a vehicle: with supply chain issues, is negotiating even a thing nowadays?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:55 am
I'm creeping up on 175k miles on my Ford F-150. It runs great, but I know it's days are likely numbered.
I am used to using the Will Cover method, and really working the dealers over.
However, I bought this truck in the beginning of 2016. It's been 6 years since I've gone through this process.
Has anyone bought a car recently?
I'm just curious to hear what dealers are doing. I'm hoping the longer I wait, the better it will be to normal, but who knows with this crazy world of ours.
I am used to using the Will Cover method, and really working the dealers over.
However, I bought this truck in the beginning of 2016. It's been 6 years since I've gone through this process.
Has anyone bought a car recently?
I'm just curious to hear what dealers are doing. I'm hoping the longer I wait, the better it will be to normal, but who knows with this crazy world of ours.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:08 pm to okietiger
You got another 125k miles baw
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:14 pm to okietiger
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It runs great, but I know it's days are likely numbered.
Yeah, like another 2,000 days
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:55 pm to okietiger
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This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:00 pm to okietiger
I'd imagine the roles have essentially been reversed. There's such little supply out there that dealers have no issue just waiting until someone walks in and is willing to take whatever deal is thrown their way
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:11 pm to okietiger
Right now, you're basically trying to negotiate DOWN to MSRP. And, they'll only sell you a vehicle (especially SUVs and trucks) at MSRP if you to get all that other bullsh!t they always try to scam you with like extended warranties.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:14 pm to okietiger
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I'm creeping up on 175k miles on my Ford F-150. It runs great, but I know it's days are likely numbered.
Why?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:49 pm to okietiger
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with supply chain issues, is negotiating even a thing nowadays?
You can negotiate...negotiate to see if you have the opportunity to buy the car
Best case scenario is you find a dealer who won't charge over MSRP on princeple.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:54 pm to okietiger
You'll get higher for your truck than you would have normally, but not sure your truck will make up the difference on how much higher you will have to pay for a new car. Used cars are crazy too, and some higher than new cars. Crazy.
There are some good dealers that are not going too crazy above MSRP, but you'll have to find them. That is really your best approach, as they are probably still paying pretty good on trade-ins.
Obviously it all depends on what you are looking for, and how long you are willing to wait. If you burnt bridges with your typical approach, then it might also come back to bite you in the butt now, as a salesman doesn't have to deal with that crap atm.
I do wonder how the used car market in 3-5yrs will be with how much people are paying for vehicles right now. Right now, in the used market, I think we are seeing an affect from the cash for clunkers deal.
There are some good dealers that are not going too crazy above MSRP, but you'll have to find them. That is really your best approach, as they are probably still paying pretty good on trade-ins.
Obviously it all depends on what you are looking for, and how long you are willing to wait. If you burnt bridges with your typical approach, then it might also come back to bite you in the butt now, as a salesman doesn't have to deal with that crap atm.
I do wonder how the used car market in 3-5yrs will be with how much people are paying for vehicles right now. Right now, in the used market, I think we are seeing an affect from the cash for clunkers deal.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:14 pm to okietiger
A friend of mine was looking for a vehicle about a month ago and they would't even give him the price unless he went to the lot. It was basically either you want the vehicle or not.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 3:08 pm to okietiger
Funny story I heard the other day. Someone I know went to Mercedes recently to order a new car. He finished his deal and he was shooting the shite with salesman and the guy says the week before, they sold the last G-wagon they could get their hands on for almost 100k over msrp.
I think G-wagons are ugly as fk; but thats the state of where we are in the luxury vehicle market. Probably some G that paid with cash, this was probably 2 months ago; dont know if the situation is different.
I think G-wagons are ugly as fk; but thats the state of where we are in the luxury vehicle market. Probably some G that paid with cash, this was probably 2 months ago; dont know if the situation is different.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 7:57 pm to okietiger
Dealers are adding to the sticker price. We’ve been shopping and it’s not fun.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:24 am to okietiger
I drove by the lot last night.
Not a truck on it.
Not a truck on it.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:18 pm to okietiger
Hate to piggyback on your thread, but I'm in a very similar situation currently.
I'm in a Nissan Maxima with 170k miles that I still enjoy driving and would be more than willing to drive until 250k miles or more. However, the detail I feel aggravates the high mileage is that my car is 12 years old. Having to replace some tires tomorrow has me re-considering if now is the time to eek some value out of the car while it still has some.
I'm in a Nissan Maxima with 170k miles that I still enjoy driving and would be more than willing to drive until 250k miles or more. However, the detail I feel aggravates the high mileage is that my car is 12 years old. Having to replace some tires tomorrow has me re-considering if now is the time to eek some value out of the car while it still has some.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:26 pm to okietiger
Yes, but not as much as pre-pandemic.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:14 pm to okietiger
Elections have consequences …
Posted on 1/30/22 at 4:29 pm to okietiger
Bought mine in Nov. They couldn’t keep anything on the lot bc people were paying sticker price. I ended up buying mine before the car made it to the lot. They took about 8% off and I was able to get 3 year oil changes instead of 1. But had to pay $1k for their premium warranty package.
I wanted the tires package w everyone getting new roofs in my neighborhood. Already got 1 “free tire” after having the car for <3 months (caught a strip of nails under some leaves that did some good damage)
I wanted the tires package w everyone getting new roofs in my neighborhood. Already got 1 “free tire” after having the car for <3 months (caught a strip of nails under some leaves that did some good damage)
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 6:38 pm to okietiger
I traded my 03 in last year with 250k and still going strong. You have plenty of time left, if you took care of it
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:14 am to okietiger
Bump.
Sitting at 181k miles on 2015 F-150.
I'll try to drive it as long as she'll give me.
However, I'm gonna need something in the next 6-24 months. When is the car market going to normalize? $83,000 for a brand new loaded F-150 is unreal. This isn't sustainable. And it's not a matter of "can I?" it's "should I?"
Sitting at 181k miles on 2015 F-150.
I'll try to drive it as long as she'll give me.
However, I'm gonna need something in the next 6-24 months. When is the car market going to normalize? $83,000 for a brand new loaded F-150 is unreal. This isn't sustainable. And it's not a matter of "can I?" it's "should I?"
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