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re: Brianna Kupfer murder suspect with lengthy rap sheet was out on bail
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:00 am to dgnx6
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:00 am to dgnx6
the glaring thing about this type of case is how many times Smith’s criminal history didnt seem to matter to the ADA or the Court in his long history of criminal behavior
the dude is a public menace
and you can see his descent into madness in the ten years of mug shots
the dude is a public menace
and you can see his descent into madness in the ten years of mug shots
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:01 am to dgnx6
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But if you cant afford bail you stay in jail until your court date. which could be a good wait.
So how is that presumed innocent?
The system is fricked up. That's my point.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:02 am to chryso
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maybe a dozen or so arrests, that you should no longer be presumed innocent.
That's a path to tyranny.
There shouldn't be many absolutes in any system dealing with people, but that's an absolute. Presumed innocent until proven guilty after proper due process. No exceptions.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:08 am to tiggerthetooth
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prisoners rights".
Where it all went wrong.
Give them three meals a day, showers, clothing and a bed.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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You mean when I started a discussion
No, I mean like where you stated something profoundly stupid and then proceeded to fail at defending your profoundly stupid statement for 19 pages against people continuously pointing out how profoundly stupid your statement was.
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on the issue because it's a relevant and serious issue we faced during the CV pandemic?
Except it wasn’t. Hospitals were never overrun or anywhere close to it. The possibility of certain icu’s being full has both happened previously during severe flu seasons or after catastrophic events, and could happen in the future if all of the fatasses like yourself suddenly started having heart attacks at the same time.
But you wanted to exempt all of those other groups and situations from your “discussion” because you’re an irrational, emotional covid moron. Meanwhile you sit in this thread lamenting others for being emotional and irrational.
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Your misstatement
This doesn’t exist, and your failed attempts at obfuscating your own stupidity don’t make it exist either.
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directly addressed by me on page 2:
You posting an exact contradiction of yourself on page 2 of a thread you started is evidence of nothing besides you being terrible at presenting a coherent argument.
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I'm all about personal responsibility.
That explains why you, an obese person, immediately moved to exempt obese people from your denying healthcare to others based on your own personal choices argument.
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I didn't realize personal responsibility was so controversial.
It’s not, and you trying to frame your pathetic arguments in this manner is just another example of failure from you, a supposed “lawyer”
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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There shouldn't be many absolutes in any system dealing with people, but that's an absolute. Presumed innocent until proven guilty after proper due process. No exceptions.
Agreed, but Judges should also have some leeway to put longer sentences in place based on a crazy number of arrests.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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See this is where you create strawman arguments
See this is where your own stupidity is turned against you and you have no response, so you start whining about strawman arguments.
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Nowhere was that the ONLY thing I care abou
What other decision making factors did you repeat 4 times and bold on the first page of this thread?
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you make an assumption to fit your belief and then strawman it up.
You say profoundly stupid things, get called out on it, and instead of actually defending them you then attempt to say you didn’t say those profoundly stupid things.
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I'm willing to discuss a rational system where we could work towards a definitive answer of your hypothetical,
It’s a yes or no question, “lawyer”
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you have to understand nuance and argue honestly to do that.
You have to display a modicum of intelligence to become someone worth having a discussion with.
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You just want to snipe, for some reason.
Sniping would be you selectively choosing 2 sentences out of a long post that you think you can formulate a response to and failing to address the rest.
Why don’t you want to talk about (post you didn’t reply to) anymore?
Why don’t you want to talk about emotional thinking anymore?
Why aren’t you wondering what jails are part of the discussion around presumed innocent people anymore?
Why don’t you want to talk about Google results anymore?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:41 am to Fun Bunch
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but Judges should also have some leeway to put longer sentences in place based on a crazy number of arrests.
We do have that for felonies with habitual offender laws.
Will be much tougher with misdemeanors b/c of the 1-year rule in most jurisdictions.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:47 am to Open Your Eyes
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No, I mean like where you stated something profoundly stupid and then proceeded to fail at defending your profoundly stupid statement for 19 pages against people continuously pointing out how profoundly stupid your statement was.
oh...ok.
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Hospitals were never overrun or anywhere close to it. The possibility of certain icu’s being full has both happened previously during severe flu seasons or after catastrophic events
So it didn't happen but it does happen. Got it.
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and could happen in the future if all of the fatasses like yourself suddenly started having heart attacks at the same time.
Ad hom attacks
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irrational, emotional covid moron
You do realize that constantly relying on ad hom attacks and using meme arguments (emotional!) incorrect are literally examples of emotional thinking, right?
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You posting an exact contradiction of yourself on page 2 of a thread you started
Again. Your homework was to start to comprehend nuance, friend.
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That explains why you, an obese person, immediately moved to exempt obese people from your denying healthcare to others based on your own personal choices argument.
That's not even what I did. I removed that "argument" from my discussion proactively. You have to do that (and I forgot in my last thread that you linked) or else all you get is meme arguments and people trying to divert the discussion.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 11:58 am to Geekboy
Damn if only he’d been arrested just fior having weed he’d have still been behind bars…
[ON] SARCASM OFF
[ON] SARCASM OFF
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:06 pm to Geekboy
To be fair, he was getting his life in order. Was going to enroll in the local community college and midnight basketball program.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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oh...ok.
Yes. Your lack of response is telling.
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So it didn't happen
No, it didn’t.
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but it does happen.
Yes, it has in the past and can in the future.
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Got it.
Clearly not.
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Ad hom attacks
Facts are not ad hominem attacks. They’re just facts.
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You do realize that constantly relying on ad hom attacks and using meme arguments (emotional!) incorrect are literally examples of emotional thinking, right?
You do realize that failing at classifying facts as ad hominem attacks and calling everything that proves your stupidity a meme argument are just the latest examples of you displaying emotional thinking, right?
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Again. Your homework was to start to comprehend nuance, friend.
You completely avoiding the point and attempting to change the subject is so pathetically transparent.
Have you learned what “ensure” and “lawyer” mean yet?
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That's not even what I did.
It’s exactly what you did.
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I removed that "argument" from my discussion proactively.
Somehow you think restating exactly what I just said and attempting to pass it off as your own thought is helping your case?
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You have to do that (and I forgot in my last thread that you linked) or else all you get is meme arguments
So you have to exempt yourself and other groups that you don’t want to be implicated jn your argument because if not people will accurately point out that the argument applies to you, and you can’t handle that.
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and people trying to divert the discussion
You mean like you done throughout this thread, “lawyer”?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why are jails a point of this discussion when the discussion is about people who are presumed innocent?
Because we have the ability as a species to realize that some people who are charged with a crime are too dangerous to release back into society, and therefore hold them without bail.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
You're quickly falling off the deep end.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:38 pm to supatigah
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the glaring thing about this type of case is how many times Smith’s criminal history didnt seem to matter to the ADA or the Court in his long history of criminal behavior
the dude is a public menace
But I've been told black people in the US are being over policed and over incarcerated. How can this be?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Oh dude is clearly a POS, but using bail as a punitive measure is a bad policy/philosophy. It completely fricks the system.
You're getting shite on, but you're not wrong. When people actually do violent shite, they should get pretty lengthy sentences, or we should revamp the entire system to turn them into something that can exist in society. I have no issue with the bail, but I have an issue with him firing a gun into an occupied vehicle and apparently getting less than 3 years of prison.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:39 pm to Geekboy
You wonder when some of these victims’ families are going to start going Law Abiding Citizen on the system.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:40 pm to Geekboy
Just hang that mother fricker when you catch him.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:45 pm to Geekboy
We have to put the insecurities of capital punishment behind us. "Barbarism" or crime run amuck. Personally, I prefer public execution broadcast to the masses.
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