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re: CDC just admitted 75% of counted Covid deaths weren’t caused by covid

Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:15 pm to
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500k+ more people died in 2020 than in 2019. The vast majority of those additional deaths correspond with the increase in the number of people dying from pneumonia and respiratory distress/failure/arrest.



This is what happens when you have a new virus and the 'treatment' protocol is to send them home until they can't breathe anymore.

I'm guessing that since the vast majority of these deaths had serious underlying conditions, that they were simply pulled forward and the number of deaths going forward will be below the average of the last several years.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:17 pm to
It will be interesting to see what mortality looks like for 2021 and 2022.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33377 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:18 pm to
What happened to all the tests? Or better yet what did this administration spend 850 million on.

Oh, and what happened to the antibodies?

Can you explain what the frick shite for brains is doing to eradicate this deadly killer disease?
So far he's killed more people than Trump.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12846 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:21 pm to
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If you have high blood pressure and you get Covid and die, you didn’t die from high blood pressure, you died from Covid. My brother in law is an ER nurse and he deals with these idiots all the time saying things like obesity was the “real” killer. Like someone who gets Covid and dies from not being able to breathe actually died from being 20 pounds overweight.


You’d be much better off if you kept quiet. That IQ level is not something I’d put on display.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:25 pm to
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CDC just admitted 75% of counted Covid deaths weren’t caused by covid


That is not what she said. I believe these mofo's are making a lot of shite up for their political purposes but she said 75% of the deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. That is not the same as saying they died from other causes with covid.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Oh, and what happened to the antibodies?



Over 726,000 doses of monoclonal antibodies are being distributed to the states this week.

Last week there about 200k distributed.

In December, over 1 million doses were distributed.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted by kennypowers
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Member since Mar 2009
511 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Steve Gruber points out the strange and convenient timing of this new COVID death stats from the CDC. “Do you remember when it was a conspiracy theory to say that Government was overcounting COVID-19 cases/deaths/hospitalizations? I do.” RUMBLE



It's laughable at this point that you guys keep eating this shite up. Just watch the original video. This is a positive thing and you guys are getting catfished by fake news.

They are saying VACCINATED people that died had more than 4 comorbidities. For the ones of you eating up this nonsense - that means that the vaccinated people that died were already in really poor health. Which also means - go get your vaccine ya morons. It protects you.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18323 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:35 pm to
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They are saying VACCINATED people that died had more than 4 comorbidities. For the ones of you eating up this nonsense - that means that the vaccinated people that died were already in really poor health. Which also means - go get your vaccine ya morons. It protects you.

You really shouldn't call others morons immediately after posting moronic bullshite. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18323 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:36 pm to
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That’s not happening anywhere. If a person dies in a car wreck, they’re not waiting for a positive test and then filling out a death certificate with Covid listed as the cause of death.

What you’re talking about is a doctor lying on a death certificate for no reason.

You do not know what you're talking about.

Plain and simple, you are posting about something you are ignorant about.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41356 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:37 pm to
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go get your vaccine ya morons. It protects you.



No thanks.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
511 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:38 pm to
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You really shouldn't call others morons immediately after posting moronic bullshite. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Which moronic piece of this are you doubling down on? For clarity....

Edit: Here's the video...(which has already been posted here once) that clearly shows the entire exchange instead of the one edited down to fit the narrative of whatever "news" network the OPs video is from.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:41 pm to
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They are saying VACCINATED people that died had more than 4 comorbidities. For the ones of you eating up this nonsense - that means that the vaccinated people that died were already in really poor health. Which also means - go get your vaccine ya morons. It protects you.


... if you have 3 or less comorbidities, that is. That's what your data suggests.

Or, you know, don't get vaccinated if you are young, in good health, and/or have natural immunity to Covid.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18323 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Which moronic piece of this are you doubling down on? For clarity....

I'm not doubling down on anything. I'm pointing at that when you allude to the notion that the 4 comorbidities per Covid death involves only those vaccinated, you are wrong. It's true of Covid deaths going back to the start of the pandemic. It has always been the unwell dying in numbers, and continues to be - vaccinated or not.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:48 pm to
This is about right. The situation has outlived its usefullness.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:50 pm to
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75% of the deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. That is not the same as saying they died from other causes with covid.


Correct. Pneumonia is a comorbidity.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18323 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:51 pm to
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2) Remember that excess deaths were up far beyond the death attributed to Covid. It’s appearing more likely that the data will show is that as many deaths (if not more) could be attributed to the reaction to the virus as the virus itself.

An informed review of the real data would be an amazing read. I hope it happens. I think the whole country would be shocked by the story it told.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
511 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:52 pm to
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I'm not doubling down on anything. I'm pointing at that when you allude to the notion that the 4 comorbidities per Covid death involves only those vaccinated, you are wrong. It's true of Covid deaths going back to the start of the pandemic. It has always been the unwell dying in numbers, and continues to be - vaccinated or not.


I don't even know where to start on this one. You're arguing against something I never suggested. What I'm pointing out is that the video the OP posted is taking a statement from the CDC and trying to make it sound like it was some gotcha moment about 75% of those people that died having 4 or more comorbidities. THATS NOT WHAT SHE WAS SUGGESTING. If you would take a minute to watch the entire video you'd see that the context in which this data was presented was about vaccinated people.

I'm not even sure why I try at this point. You've got your mind made up about all of this. Carry on. You do you.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:59 pm to
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I'm not doubling down on anything. I'm pointing at that when you allude to the notion that the 4 comorbidities per Covid death involves only those vaccinated, you are wrong. It's true of Covid deaths going back to the start of the pandemic. It has always been the unwell dying in numbers, and continues to be - vaccinated or not.



As it relates to this thread, the numbers are only for those vaccinated. The context that brought about this thread was a study done on vaccinated individuals.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19175 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Correct. Pneumonia is a comorbidity.


Incorrect. Pneumonia is a secondary infection. High blood pressure is a comorbidity which I have independently of covid. Hopefully that is the only one I have.

If you got pneumonia as a result of covid infection that would be a vovid death. Flu does the same thing. Nobody dies from the flu - they die from the pneumonia it caused...
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30190 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:08 pm to
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you have high blood pressure and you get Covid and die, you didn’t die from high blood pressure, you died from Covid.



But you would have survived without any trouble if you didn’t have high blood pressure. Sounds like the variable which caused your death was indeed high blood pressure
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