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re: Coach O ran this place into the ground
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:37 pm to holdatigah2019
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:37 pm to holdatigah2019
Alleva’s hiring of coach O was one of the most mystifying hires I have ever witnessed. His decision to replace one of the most successful coaches in LSU history with one of the least successful coaches in SEC history was simply mind-boggling. You can’t take an interview over a terrible head-coaching résumé. It’s gonna bite you in the arse every time.
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:32 pm to Zarkinletch416
You are exactly correct. College Football is headed for the toilet.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:36 pm to mmcgrath
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And in 3 years that team went 15-0. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about being able to recover from losing 15 players to the NFL and your DC in one off-season.
You get to use that excuse 1 year
Those players would have been gone no matter what in 2021 and we were a shitshow
That’s year 5. Losing a QB from 2017 in 2021 should be something you can overcome considering the 4 recruiting classes since then
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 10:21 pm to SammyTiger
If he was allowed to hire the best assistants, yea. Too bad woody had already made it known he wanted to get rid of O so he had to settle for his hires. Coaching is a small fraternity and the best guys(freeman) weren’t gonna take a job where they knew the Ad wanted a new coach.
Will be nice to have some alignment for sure, the meddling has been bad for the program.
Will be nice to have some alignment for sure, the meddling has been bad for the program.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
Can we just agree we lucked out not getting Jimbo?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:17 am to TigerBait225
Whether you think O was qualified enough or not qualified enough to win the job
You must admit certainly that:
Pre-2019 Orgeron and Post-2019 Orgeron
Were not the same... and the stark difference between the two is what most fans have issues with. Post 2019 CEO is who he actually is and who we were all waiting for him to reveal himself as.
You must admit certainly that:
Pre-2019 Orgeron and Post-2019 Orgeron
Were not the same... and the stark difference between the two is what most fans have issues with. Post 2019 CEO is who he actually is and who we were all waiting for him to reveal himself as.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:32 am to Boomshockalocka
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If he was allowed to hire the best assistants, yea. Too bad woody had already made it known he wanted to get rid of O so he had to settle for his hires. Coaching is a small fraternity and the best guys(freeman) weren’t gonna take a job where they knew the Ad wanted a new coach.
Will be nice to have some alignment for sure, the meddling has been bad for the program.
I love this talking point. Poor, poor, O. Everyone was against him. He could have built a dynasty if it weren't for that dastardly Woody. 
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:47 am to p&g
quote:I see why so many want you gone, Another idiot “O” jock sniffer
Hmmmm .... an unbiased person for or against swamp king could make an argument that losing a big part of his staff and damn near entire team production anyways ... plus Covid fiasco plandemic and the amount of injuries this year prob were as big as factors as anything else.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:49 am to Lonnie4LSU
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You can’t take an interview over a terrible head-coaching résumé
You think he interviewed well?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:01 am to Boomshockalocka
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he was allowed to hire the best assistants, yea. Too bad woody had already made it known he wanted to get rid of O so he had to settle for his hires. Coaching is a small fraternity and the best guys(freeman) weren’t gonna take a job where they knew the Ad wanted a new coach.
So what stopped him from hiring freeman or any other big time DC after 2019? What about an OC? You really think the vibe was that O was getting fired after 2019?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:21 am to holdatigah2019
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:29 am to Oilfieldbiology
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So what stopped him from hiring freeman or any other big time DC after 2019? What about an OC? You really think the vibe was that O was getting fired after 2019?
Kind of destroys that narrative. And Woody wanted him gone so badly, he gave O an extension and raise.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:42 am to SammyTiger
quote:This past year we had to get a new DC and OC as Coach E retired from the position. Then our starting QB goes down again.
You get to use that excuse 1 year
Those players would have been gone no matter what in 2021 and we were a shitshow
That’s year 5. Losing a QB from 2017 in 2021 should be something you can overcome considering the 4 recruiting classes since then
Still wouldn't have been as bad if Woody wasn't out for O's head and going cheap on coordinators. Our DC was good as the defense showed improvement every week. Unfortunately Peetz was a bad bargain basement pickup and our you QB wasn't great and got worse as he got beat up during the season.
Even with all that, if the AD had shown any support we would have finished strong and had a top 5 class going into next season. With a couple of solid OL in the class and the transfer we got next year and future years were looking bright.
Now Kelly has all the talent minus some of the recruiting class. Let's see what he can do with it. O left him a team with top level talent.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:47 am to AlxTgr
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Of course he did.
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AlxTgr
Could you please tell me exactly what qualifications Ed Orgeron possessed prior to becoming the head football coach of LSU? And you can't use the fact that he was alive at the time of his hiring or that he was a football coach.
Specifically, what qualifications did Ed Orgeron posses that hundreds of other potential candidates didn't posses in spades over him? Please, try to be specific and not use your vague posts like you did throughout the thread up until this point.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:16 am to mmcgrath
11th Commandment:
Thou shalt not speak ill of Woody or Scott as he is called. Thou cannot say that any of his actions have been detrimental to parts of the football program even if true.
Thou shalt not speak ill of Woody or Scott as he is called. Thou cannot say that any of his actions have been detrimental to parts of the football program even if true.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:21 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Alleva’s hiring of coach O was one of the most mystifying hires I have ever witnessed. His decision to replace one of the most successful coaches in LSU history with one of the least successful coaches in SEC history was simply mind-boggling. You can’t take an interview over a terrible head-coaching résumé. It’s gonna bite you in the arse every time.
No ad thought enough of O's coaching to offer him a DC position, let alone a HC position. In no way was Ed Orgeron qualified to take over a top 5 program since the turn of the century. He had never in his life run a successful program or side of the ball.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:26 am to mmcgrath
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Still wouldn't have been as bad if Woody wasn't out for O's head and going cheap on coordinators.
Didn’t we pay our coordinators well over $1,000,000 each? Weren’t we in the running for Marcus Freeman, the top coordinator, until the very end? How much did we pay Pelini at DC? Where is this narrative that we offered bargain contracts?
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Our DC was good as the defense showed improvement every week.
No we didn’t. We didn’t start improving until O was canned, Kiffin told him to stop running the stupid 4 down, zero blitz, predictable matchup zone defense O insisted Jones run.
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Unfortunately Peetz was a bad bargain basement pickup and our you QB wasn't great and got worse as he got beat up during the season.
How much did we pay him? Wasn’t it in the top quartile of OC’s? Maybe O is just crappy at evaluating talent.
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Even with all that, if the AD had shown any support we would have finished strong and had a top 5 class going into next season. With a couple of solid OL in the class and the transfer we got next year and future years were looking bright.
He more than doubled O’s salary, gave him blank checks to hire coordinators, and by al accounts let the football coaches coach, unlike alleva.
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Now Kelly has all the talent minus some of the recruiting class. Let's see what he can do with it. O left him a team with top level talent.
I agree we have some talent on this squad, particularly on the defense and at the offensive skill positions.
It will be nice to have a competent coach that is active and involved in the play to play strategy in game as opposed to a buffoon that claps and yells let’s go.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:33 am to holdatigah2019
Orgeron is a joke. Always was
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:53 am to donRANDOMnumbers
Laughing all the way to the bank too
Posted on 12/21/21 at 11:24 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Pulled talented guys with cancerous attitudes.
Which inevitably became his Frankenstein and the real reason he's no longer here.
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