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I just want to make sure I understand the communist thought process here

Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:22 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:22 am
Donald Trump is President, who has absolute authority to declassify anything, keeps a few documents. The authorities hear about this, there is an ongoing legal dispute, and Trump puts an extra lock on a door to comply with their stipulations during the legal dispute. The documents are now stored behind 2 secure locked doors. Donald Trump gets indicted....

Joe Biden is a senator and vice president and has no authority to declassify anything. Documents are randomly found unsecured in his Center at a college. Days later they found in his unsecured garage at his home. A few weeks later boxes are found unsecured at another location. Joe Biden has exponentially more documents with no legal authority to have them. Joe Biden is not indicted or being charged with anything.

But Donald Trump is the facist in all of this? The entire political system is broken!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451956 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:23 am to
It's clearly hypocritical but if they really want a conviction it will be on the obstruction angle.

Also, I believe this will be tried in Florida, which gives Trump a major advantage over being tried in DC.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:26 am to
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who has absolute authority to declassify anything, keeps a few documents.


He does not
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:28 am to
You can also bet 100s of congressman and former have classified documents….. helps with blackmail
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27040 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:29 am to
Accuse your enemy of what you are doing.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:35 am to
So.....any facts to back up that statement?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
104573 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:38 am to
Leto doesn’t live in a world where facts matter.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43859 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:06 am to
sighs
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:08 am to
Apparently the point of the leak the other day about the recording at MAL is that it "shows" he knew he had docs he didn't declassify.

Yet I'm still waiting for the official SOP document process as it seems every President before him was told it and the followed it to a tee.

For goodness sake Obama filled a storage warehouse with all he took, let's see the signed off process for all of that. Iirc be even legally locked it all down for X amount of yrs. In a nut shell...Trump is going to clean house over at the commie National Archive on day 1.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6785 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:19 am to
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He does not
You cite the law saying he doesn’t and I’ll cite the Constitution. Let’s see it. And I said cite the law, not some procedural bullshite.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124028 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:25 am to
quote:

He does not


Under the ultimate legal authority of the United States, he does.

Everything else can frick off.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1393 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

It's clearly hypocritical but if they really want a conviction it will be on the obstruction angle.


DOJ criminalized a Civil law. The Presidential Records Act has no criminal statue and says that a former President is entitled to all records he deems personal. That’s why all former Presidents have classified records i their possession. The obstruction would be born out of an illegal procedure of criminalizing a civil matter.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60742 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:33 am to
He absolutely does.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14627 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:45 am to
You lost it at saying “ thought “
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75487 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:46 am to
quote:

I just want to make sure I understand the communist thought process here


quote:

He does not


Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:48 am to
Oh that is rich coming from this crew
There is a process to declassify. Trump knows it and is on tape acknowledging it. I’m not even going into the obstruction.
He can’t wave a fricking Harry Potter wand and declassify. And why would he need them anyway if it weren’t for leverage or money?
Posted by Jdillard343434
Greenville sc
Member since Dec 2020
1429 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:48 am to
I don't not after he trashed florida you think they are going to be fair after he trashed the state and the great governor president Desantis
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:51 am to
quote:

ou cite the law saying he doesn’t and I’ll cite the Constitution. Let’s see it. And I said cite the law, not some procedural bull shite.


I think this is what it ultimately boils down to. IF the Constitutional powers of the Commander and Chief give the President ultimate authority to declassify documents, which court precedent supports they do, then statute and rule about how the president should declassify documents are irrelevant.
Posted by Jdillard343434
Greenville sc
Member since Dec 2020
1429 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:51 am to
What do you mean crew are you being racists my people in other words code for white honkeys
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:52 am to
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There is a process to declassify.


Statute and administrative procedures don't trump constitutional authority.
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