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re: I just want to make sure I understand the communist thought process here

Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:42 am to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:42 am to
Supposedly he had copies of attack plans written by Milley against Iran.

Milley is the same a-hole who claims he cut off Trump’s nuts and would pre-warn China and other countries if Trump tried to attack them.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:43 am to
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He does no


As president the sole authority to declassify rests with him. He can delegate that authority, but ultimately even those delegated to the determination to declassify are reporting to the executive.

Classification/decalssifcatiin is 100% the presidents call.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:47 am to
He does have that power as POTUS.

They are throwing the kitchen sink at him, and so far, he is still in their face and still an obstacle they cannot move.

It's pathetic and hilarious all at the same time.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21589 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:52 am to
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There is a process to declassify.


Please link the steps to this process.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11908 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:53 am to
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he does not(have power as Pres. to declassify)


If you would listen to non-communist TV channels you would have seen the Trump signed de-classifying memo and heard commentary from Constitutional lawyers which clearly indicate he had power to declassify the documents in his possession.

Open your eyes and ears and you will learn the truth liberal, progressive underground worm that you are

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21589 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:53 am to
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Why do people insist on using words they don't understand?


I know, progs can't even get the words man or woman right.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3229 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:56 am to
I was hanging out with some friends last night who were giddy that Trump got indicted. They were talking about a witness who will testify against Trump because he was the one Trump supposedly consulted with about taking the documents.

I said, “Did the same guy advise Hillary too?”

They just stared at me speechless.

There is a clear and obvious double standard going on here.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by highanklesprain20
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Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:59 am to
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The documents are now stored behind 2 secure locked doors. Donald Trump gets indicted....


You conveniently skipped the next steps that trumps atty signed a letter stating all requested record were returned, and the kept ones were now properly stored. then when the feds found there were still missing docs, and alleged video of documents being moved pre and post raid, then another search found more documents.

Trump can't help himself. He wanted his keepsakes. He knew there were proper channels to go through, like Obama did, but chose not to. Cause Trump thinks the rules don't apply to him.

If he had returned all the docs when asked to, this is a non story. But he didn't, cause he's Trump, and he can't help himself.
Posted by WillyLoman
On Island Time
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:00 am to
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The mental gymnastics y'all have to go through to think trump is some secret agent selling state secrets but not Biden, who had HUNDREDS of boxes, is really amazing to behold.



FIFY
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:05 am to
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There is a clear and obvious whataboutism going on here.

Agreed. Trump either broke the law or he didn't. It doesn't have anything to do with tHildebeast.
Posted by highanklesprain20
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:10 am to
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Classification/decalssifcatiin is 100% the presidents call.


And so far has nothing to do with the known charges. If any of the documents Trump had were related to national defense, and he knowingly obstructed in the governments retrieval of those documents, the classification status is irrelevant.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95482 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:51 am to
I think part of their problem is that they will have to stipulate that the document in question exists to begin with, then explain why Trump would want to keep a copy of it.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 11:01 am to
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If you would listen to non-communist TV channels you would have seen the Trump signed de-classifying memo and heard commentary from Constitutional lawyers which clearly indicate he had power to declassify the documents in his possession.

Open your eyes and ears and you will learn the truth liberal, progressive underground worm that you are




You might want to tell Trump this because clearly he didn't know

quote:

Former President Trump admitted in a July 2021 recording that he had not declassified “secret information” that remained in his possession, CNN reported Friday.

“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t,” Trump said, according to a transcript of the recording obtained by CNN.

“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” he reportedly added at another point. “This was done by the military and given to me.”

LINK


CNN had previously reported that federal prosecutors had obtained a recording of the July 2021 meeting, in which the former president appeared to acknowledge that a Pentagon document in his possession about a potential attack on Iran remained classified.


quote:

“He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn’t that amazing?” Trump said, according to CNN. “I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this — this is off the record, but — they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him.”

“All sorts of stuff — pages long, look,” he added. “Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.”

Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
677 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 11:03 am to
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This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95482 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 11:10 am to
So, CNN hasn’t heard the recording? Just had a transcript of it? And they are reporting it as fact.

Remember when Vindiman claimed Trump was “undermining US foreign policy in Ukraine” by not following his talking points?
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:23 pm to
CelticBitch
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19480 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:31 pm to
And Obama has a whole unsecure warehouse full of classified documents as do a gaggle of ex-presidents, VP's and hundreds of swamp creatures like Hillary. Hillary's home brew server was co-owned by Chinese intel hacks.

The dishonest hacks who have infested our government need to be purged and charged with criminal abuse of power to obstruct the electoral process.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19480 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:08 pm to
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If any of the documents Trump had were related to national defense,


That is a BS claim because the term "national defense" can be applied to a fricking Dorito.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49280 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:14 pm to
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I don't not after he trashed florida you think they are going to be fair after he trashed the state and the great governor president Desantis




JJOBama and jbdawg have loads of polls claiming Trump is kicking DeSantis' arse in Florida.
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