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WSJ: The U.K.’s Healthcare System Is in Crisis; 500 die every week due to treatment delays

Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:27 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:27 am
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The U.K.’s Government-Run Healthcare Service Is in Crisis

WSJ

For more than a decade, the British gov­ern­ment has run its Na­tional Health Ser­vice, the world’s largest gov­ern­ment-run health­care sys­tem, on a tight bud­get. The NHS prided it­self on be­ing one of the lean­est health­care sys­tems in the de­vel­oped world, spend­ing less per head on av­er­age than its large Eu­ropean neigh­bors—and far less than the U.S.

Now the state-funded ser­vice is fall­ing apart. Peo­ple who suf­fer heart at­tacks or strokes wait more than 1½ hours on av­er­age for an am­bu­lance. Hos­pi­tals are so full they are turn­ing pa­tients away. A record 7.1 mil­lion peo­ple in Eng­land—more than one in 10 peo­ple—are stuck on wait­ing lists for non­emergency hos­pi­tal treat­ment like hip re­place­ments. The NHS on Mon­day faced the big­gest strike in its his­tory, with thou­sands of para­medics and nurses walk­ing out over pay.

The NHS’s woes are an ex­treme ex­am­ple of is­sues play­ing out across the de­vel­oped world. Health­care sys­tems, hit hard by Covid, are un­der pres­sure as peo­ple live longer and have a wider range of treat­ment op­tions. Ag­ing pop­u­la­tions mean costs will keep grow­ing. The U.K.’s ex­pe­ri­ence is a warn­ing of what hap­pens when sup­ply in health­care pro­vi­sion can’t keep up with de­mand.

“The health­care sys­tem in the U.K. is fac­ing a cri­sis like no other I have seen in my ca­reer,” said Nigel Ed­wards, the re­tir­ing chief ex­ec­u­tive of the Nuffield Trust, a health­care think tank, and for­mer chief ex­ec­u­tive for the NHS. “The U.K. has mis­taken cheap­ness for ef­fi­ciency in its ap­proach to health, and it’s com­ing home to roost.”

The NHS has lost thou­sands of hos­pi­tal beds in the past decade in its drive for ef­fi­ciency. Covid de­layed treat­ments for pa­tients, re­sult­ing in a vast wait­ing list. Hos­pi­tals in Eng­land were al­ready at 98% ca­pac­ity in De­cem­ber when the bru­tal flu sea­son be­gan to take hold. The mass of sick pa­tients gummed up the sys­tem to dev­as­tat­ing ef­fect.

De­lays in treat­ing peo­ple are caus­ing the pre­ma­ture deaths of 300 to 500 peo­ple a week, ac­cord­ing to es­ti­mates from the Royal Col­lege of Emer­gency Med­i­cine, a pro­fes­sional as­so­ci­a­tion in Lon­don. One in five British peo­ple were wait­ing for a med­ical ap­point­ment or treat­ment by the NHS in De­cem­ber, ac­cord­ing to the U.K. Of­fice for Na­tional Sta­tistics (ONS).


Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:28 am to
Need to get down to 500,000,000 people somehow, right?
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25469 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:42 am to
Coming to a country near you.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:49 am to
Somehow this will be blamed on capitalism
Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:46 am to
My father is friends with a Canadian man who came to the US and paid out of pocket to have a brain tumor removed. The waiting list in the Canadian health system was so long the man would be permanently disabled had he waited to have the surgery. Canada is actually encouraging euthanasia as part of their health care system. It is coming here too. I recently sold my PT practice and retired early. Medicare and insurance companies continue to cut medical facilities. These cuts along with high inflation was killing us. Medicare cut us 3.4% last year, 2% the year before, 2% the year before that. For 2023 the proposed cuts are 4.3% Between the cuts and the insurance companies down tiering providers who are not in their medicaid programs I had enough and got out of private practice. My son left the field last year when we sold. He said he can't see it getting any better.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:09 am
Posted by Fat Harry
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:00 am to
British system is a true disaster.
German system much better and what Obamacare was based on. But there are definitely two classes - those with public insurance, and those with private insurance.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10154 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:01 am to
I lived in the U.K. for three year its horrible system. Yet the opens the Olympics celebrating it.

A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21166 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:56 am to
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A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance


That pesky capitalism sneaking around causing all these deaths
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:08 am to
Here comes dawgman35654566 to set you straight
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38807 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:17 am to
You’re telling me that the government running something is incompetent?

Shocked…shocked I tell you!
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13484 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:24 am to
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Coming to a country near you

It's here, believe me....
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69755 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:27 am to
our fair and unbiased Lefty’s will be here soon to set you straight on how amazing the UK’s healthcare system is compared to our shitty American healthcare system.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
24599 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:28 am to
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A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance.

It’s the poor that are affected most, and they are too ignorant to realize how ineffective gov healthcare can be until it’s too late.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79610 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:49 am to
Yeah public healthcare sucks.


What we have is going the wrong direction too. More big chain doctors who bow down to admin and corporate and the government is the largest insurance provider.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 6:51 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:56 am to
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Somehow this will be blamed on capitalism


Capitalism ran out of hospital beds too.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:56 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69755 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:57 am to
during a global pandemic. same thing.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31836 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:00 am to
National healthcare doesn’t work? Absolute shocker. Lefties will say Canada works, but it’s not a good comparison

Public healthcare will always lack capacity bc the limitations on healthcare providers will keep the supply too small
Private healthcare will always be too expensive for middle and lower class
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 7:05 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31836 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:01 am to
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Capitalism ran out of hospital beds too.

Once. Capitalism is fine now. Stay on Pels Talk baw, this isn’t your wheelhouse
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:02 am to
Luckily no one in the US ever experiences any treatment delays or loses out on any medical treatment due to our incredibly generous and affordable health insurance system.
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