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WSJ: The U.K.’s Healthcare System Is in Crisis; 500 die every week due to treatment delays
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:27 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:27 am
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The U.K.’s Government-Run Healthcare Service Is in Crisis
WSJ
For more than a decade, the British government has run its National Health Service, the world’s largest government-run healthcare system, on a tight budget. The NHS prided itself on being one of the leanest healthcare systems in the developed world, spending less per head on average than its large European neighbors—and far less than the U.S.
Now the state-funded service is falling apart. People who suffer heart attacks or strokes wait more than 1½ hours on average for an ambulance. Hospitals are so full they are turning patients away. A record 7.1 million people in England—more than one in 10 people—are stuck on waiting lists for nonemergency hospital treatment like hip replacements. The NHS on Monday faced the biggest strike in its history, with thousands of paramedics and nurses walking out over pay.
The NHS’s woes are an extreme example of issues playing out across the developed world. Healthcare systems, hit hard by Covid, are under pressure as people live longer and have a wider range of treatment options. Aging populations mean costs will keep growing. The U.K.’s experience is a warning of what happens when supply in healthcare provision can’t keep up with demand.
“The healthcare system in the U.K. is facing a crisis like no other I have seen in my career,” said Nigel Edwards, the retiring chief executive of the Nuffield Trust, a healthcare think tank, and former chief executive for the NHS. “The U.K. has mistaken cheapness for efficiency in its approach to health, and it’s coming home to roost.”
The NHS has lost thousands of hospital beds in the past decade in its drive for efficiency. Covid delayed treatments for patients, resulting in a vast waiting list. Hospitals in England were already at 98% capacity in December when the brutal flu season began to take hold. The mass of sick patients gummed up the system to devastating effect.
Delays in treating people are causing the premature deaths of 300 to 500 people a week, according to estimates from the Royal College of Emergency Medicine, a professional association in London. One in five British people were waiting for a medical appointment or treatment by the NHS in December, according to the U.K. Office for National Statistics (ONS).
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:28 am to member12
Need to get down to 500,000,000 people somehow, right?
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:42 am to member12
Coming to a country near you.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:49 am to member12
Somehow this will be blamed on capitalism
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:46 am to member12
My father is friends with a Canadian man who came to the US and paid out of pocket to have a brain tumor removed. The waiting list in the Canadian health system was so long the man would be permanently disabled had he waited to have the surgery. Canada is actually encouraging euthanasia as part of their health care system. It is coming here too. I recently sold my PT practice and retired early. Medicare and insurance companies continue to cut medical facilities. These cuts along with high inflation was killing us. Medicare cut us 3.4% last year, 2% the year before, 2% the year before that. For 2023 the proposed cuts are 4.3% Between the cuts and the insurance companies down tiering providers who are not in their medicaid programs I had enough and got out of private practice. My son left the field last year when we sold. He said he can't see it getting any better.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:09 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:00 am to painman1
British system is a true disaster.
German system much better and what Obamacare was based on. But there are definitely two classes - those with public insurance, and those with private insurance.
German system much better and what Obamacare was based on. But there are definitely two classes - those with public insurance, and those with private insurance.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:01 am to member12
I lived in the U.K. for three year its horrible system. Yet the opens the Olympics celebrating it.
A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance.
A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:56 am to DaBike
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A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance
That pesky capitalism sneaking around causing all these deaths
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:08 am to member12
Here comes dawgman35654566 to set you straight
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:17 am to member12
You’re telling me that the government running something is incompetent?
Shocked…shocked I tell you!
Shocked…shocked I tell you!
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:24 am to tigerbutt
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Coming to a country near you
It's here, believe me....
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:27 am to member12
our fair and unbiased Lefty’s will be here soon to set you straight on how amazing the UK’s healthcare system is compared to our shitty American healthcare system.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:28 am to DaBike
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A lot of people there have supplemental private insurance.
It’s the poor that are affected most, and they are too ignorant to realize how ineffective gov healthcare can be until it’s too late.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:49 am to member12
Yeah public healthcare sucks.
What we have is going the wrong direction too. More big chain doctors who bow down to admin and corporate and the government is the largest insurance provider.
What we have is going the wrong direction too. More big chain doctors who bow down to admin and corporate and the government is the largest insurance provider.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 6:51 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:56 am to Roaad
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Somehow this will be blamed on capitalism
Capitalism ran out of hospital beds too.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:57 am to whatiknowsofar
during a global pandemic. same thing.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:00 am to member12
National healthcare doesn’t work? Absolute shocker. Lefties will say Canada works, but it’s not a good comparison
Public healthcare will always lack capacity bc the limitations on healthcare providers will keep the supply too small
Private healthcare will always be too expensive for middle and lower class
Public healthcare will always lack capacity bc the limitations on healthcare providers will keep the supply too small
Private healthcare will always be too expensive for middle and lower class
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 7:05 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:01 am to whatiknowsofar
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Capitalism ran out of hospital beds too.
Once. Capitalism is fine now. Stay on Pels Talk baw, this isn’t your wheelhouse
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:02 am to member12
Luckily no one in the US ever experiences any treatment delays or loses out on any medical treatment due to our incredibly generous and affordable health insurance system.
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