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Bodycam and Ring video from guy shot by police supposedly defending home from burglar
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:43 pm
An Austin resident, Rajan David Moonesinghe, was outside of his house with a rifle a little after midnight on Nov 15th. His family said he had returned from a trip and thought someone was burglarizing his home. A 911 call was made by a neighbor saying there was a man with a rifle in front of a house.
On Ring video you can see him pacing around the front of his house, he points his rifle inside and says "You want this? Are you sure? My god, you're fricking stupid" in a normal tone of voice and fires two shots inside the house from just outside of his front door.
At the same time, cops pull up and an officer says "drop the gun" a split second before he fires at Moonesinghe, it's almost simultaneous.
Cops fire 5-6 shots and as he's dying, Moonesinghe says "It wasn't me" over and over still in somewhat of a normal tone of voice.
Ring video on Youtube
Bodycam video on Youtube
Local news story
On Ring video you can see him pacing around the front of his house, he points his rifle inside and says "You want this? Are you sure? My god, you're fricking stupid" in a normal tone of voice and fires two shots inside the house from just outside of his front door.
At the same time, cops pull up and an officer says "drop the gun" a split second before he fires at Moonesinghe, it's almost simultaneous.
Cops fire 5-6 shots and as he's dying, Moonesinghe says "It wasn't me" over and over still in somewhat of a normal tone of voice.
Ring video on Youtube
Bodycam video on Youtube
Local news story
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:45 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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and an officer says "drop the gun" a split second before he fires at Moonesinghe, it's almost simultaneous.
Sounds like that Tamir Rice shooting. Cops roll up and blasted the kid before he could barely move.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:47 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Cop just rolled up and shot. That's fricked up. No opportunity at all for the guy to drop the weapon.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:50 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:52 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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Bad look, Austin.
Austin probably doesn’t want this guy to defend his home.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:02 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Is it possible to support the police and ideologically disagree with how quick they are to shoot and with the concept of “unload the mag” until the suspect is neutralized?
If so, I think that’s my stance.
If so, I think that’s my stance.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:03 pm to Diseasefreeforall
quote:Really not a good idea to do this.
On Ring video you can see him pacing around the front of his house, he points his rifle inside
He shouldn’t have been pacing outside his home with the rifle.
Whether he is or is not allowed to perform such an act isn’t the debate.
IMO, it isn’t a smart action to take.
quote:Absolutely poor actions by the police.
At the same time, cops pull up and an officer says "drop the gun" a split second before he fires at Moonesinghe, it's almost simultaneous.
You must give the individual a chance to respond.
The minute sirens are heard or lights appear, drop the gun unless currently under active threat too.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:04 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Whole scenario seems odd but what’s clear.. the cop shot way to early and killed a man then seemingly going into cover your arse mode..
Cops are way to scared and trigger happy these days.
Cops are way to scared and trigger happy these days.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:09 pm to Diseasefreeforall
I get the guy had an assault rifle in his hands, but the cop rolled up yelled “dropped the weapon” then opened fire. The guy never had a chance. I totally get policing is tough work and the kid could have actually been a harden criminal, but to open up fires like that is poor training by the officer, an officer who is scared, or and officer who relished the idea of killing. Officer needs to pay for this. There has to be some accountability and warning of what will happen to untrained officer when they decide to open fire indiscriminately.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:11 pm to Scruffy
I agree with both those points.
This was a really bad situation all around and unfortunately two sets of bad decisions collided.
This was a really bad situation all around and unfortunately two sets of bad decisions collided.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:12 pm to thenza
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possible to support the police and ideologically disagree with how quick they are to shoot and with the concept of “unload the mag” until the suspect is neutralized?
Weird way of saying I’m going to lick the boot first
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:15 pm to LatinTiger30
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I get the guy had an assault rifle in his hands, but the cop rolled up yelled “dropped the weapon” then opened fire. The guy never had a chance. I totally get policing is tough work and the kid could have actually been a harden criminal, but to open up fires like that is poor training by the officer, an officer who is scared, or and officer who relished the idea of killing. Officer needs to pay for this. There has to be some accountability and warning of what will happen to untrained officer when they decide to open fire indiscriminately.
The cop should've given him time to surrender but the second shot rang out as soon as the cops got out of their cars. From the cop's view they have a home invasion in progress, and a guy on the front steps firing a rifle into the front door of the house. Not sure what this guy told dispatch but you should always be sure to describe yourself if you're going to be holding a gun when the cops show up.
Also, did it sound/look like this dude was drunk/high? It kinda seemed that way to me.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:18 pm to Scruffy
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The minute sirens are heard or lights appear, drop the gun unless currently under active threat too.
I didn’t see sirens or hear them in the video. Cops fricked up big time
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:21 pm to Scruffy
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Really not a good idea to do this.
He shouldn’t have been pacing outside his home with the rifle.
Whether he is or is not allowed to perform such an act isn’t the debate.
IMO, it isn’t a smart action to take.
Law enforcement kills private property owner defending own property from outside threat. Scruffy agrees.
Great look there. I'm sure many here will agree with you.
quote:
Absolutely poor actions by the police.
You must give the individual a chance to respond.
The minute sirens are heard or lights appear, drop the gun unless currently under active threat too.
Another great opinion, Scruffy. Why should a private property owner surrender their weapon as soon as sirens are heard or lights are seen? The duty should be on the police to positively identify the property owner before arriving on the scene and immediately discharging their weapon(s).
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:24 pm to upgrayedd
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The cop should've given him time to surrender but the second shot rang out as soon as the cops got out of their cars. From the cop's view they have a home invasion in progress
You don't fire if you cannot identify your target and know who you're shooting at.
Cop fricked up. Homeowner has every right to have a firearm on their own property. Cops made a poor assumption.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:27 pm to McVick
quote:Agree with what?
Law enforcement kills private property owner defending own property from outside threat. Scruffy agrees.
It sucks that it happened.
The police shouldn’t have shot him, but he made a poor decision that led to this outcome.
I would bet dollars to doughnuts that any firearm defense expert would agree with me that pacing out in front of your house and then firing into your home from the outside is not a good idea.
quote:Because it is a smart action to prevent an outcome like this.
Another great opinion, Scruffy. Why should a private property owner surrender their weapon as soon as sirens are heard or lights are seen?
quote:But it isn’t and it never has been.
The duty should be on the police to positively identify the property owner before arriving on the scene and immediately discharging their weapon(s).
And everyone should know that.
Look, you can take your chances with fidgety cops rolling up on a report of an active shooter.
I don’t want to be a martyr.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You don't fire if you cannot identify your target and know who you're shooting at.
If that's your position, then the homeowner is at fault as well.
quote:I agree the cop fricked up. All I'm saying is that the homeowner did a pretty piss poor job of preventing himself from being shot by an incompetent cop.
Cop fricked up. Homeowner has every right to have a firearm on their own property. Cops made a poor assumption.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:29 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy
Don't be reasonable and look at these things from multiple points of view. You need to take a hard line stance for one camp or the other and not listen to any opposing arguments.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:29 pm to TROLA
Cops fricked up sneaking up on this guy and firing immediately, but the victim was acting very erratic. Pacing outside with a rifle, shouting at the door, SHOOTING through the front door as the cops pulled up.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:29 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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A 911 call was made by a neighbor saying there was a man with a rifle in front of a house.
Austin pussies
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