- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Men's BB This Yr vs Last Yr Matchup
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:48 am
Starting 5:
G - JHill v Pinson
G - Miller vs Murray
G/F - Hayes/JWilliams/Mwani vs Gaines/Efton/Mwani
F - Fountain vs Days
F - KJ vs Eason
Bench:
F - Hannibal vs Fudge
F - Reed vs O'Neal
This matchup seems like a push to be honest
G - JHill v Pinson
G - Miller vs Murray
G/F - Hayes/JWilliams/Mwani vs Gaines/Efton/Mwani
F - Fountain vs Days
F - KJ vs Eason
Bench:
F - Hannibal vs Fudge
F - Reed vs O'Neal
This matchup seems like a push to be honest
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 11:54 am
9
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:53 am to helllo_heisman002
quote:
This matchup seems like a push to be honest
Hahahahahaha.
If you say so.
Should be easy to tell which was a better team after sec play. Lets see if this team makes the tourney.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:54 am to helllo_heisman002
A push lol?
Eason is better than KJ
Days way better than Fountain
Miller over Murray
Eason is better than KJ
Days way better than Fountain
Miller over Murray
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:55 am to helllo_heisman002
I'd take last year's team by 15
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:59 am to thunderbird1100
Yep. Last yrs team. Not even close to a psuh
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:04 pm to Chalkywhite84
I'd take last year's team with McMahon coaching.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:06 pm to helllo_heisman002
Huh? A push how?
Eason borderline lottery pick. KJ is a 2nd rd pick at Best But prob UDFA
Pinson was just ok but Hill is not close to him
Days over Fountain easy. All SEC vs fringe SEC player
Miller v Murray push
Eason borderline lottery pick. KJ is a 2nd rd pick at Best But prob UDFA
Pinson was just ok but Hill is not close to him
Days over Fountain easy. All SEC vs fringe SEC player
Miller v Murray push
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:08 pm to helllo_heisman002
Hill over Pinson (slightly)
Miller over Murray
Days over Fountain
Eason over any frontcourt player on this team
KJ over Reid
The singular difference (right now) between last year's team and this year's team is that last year's team had an ELITE defense whereas this year's team defense has been just pretty good. The other, slightly lesser, difference is last year's group was a better offensive rebounding team and better FT shooting team.
Last year's offense was the worst in the Wade era. By a LARGE margin. This year's offense hasn't been good...but it has still been (slightly) better than last year's group (again, thus far).
Miller over Murray
Days over Fountain
Eason over any frontcourt player on this team
KJ over Reid
The singular difference (right now) between last year's team and this year's team is that last year's team had an ELITE defense whereas this year's team defense has been just pretty good. The other, slightly lesser, difference is last year's group was a better offensive rebounding team and better FT shooting team.
Last year's offense was the worst in the Wade era. By a LARGE margin. This year's offense hasn't been good...but it has still been (slightly) better than last year's group (again, thus far).
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:10 pm to helllo_heisman002
Assuming that this is just for fun then a better comparison would be this yrs roster vs this yrs potential roster under Wade.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:15 pm to Alt26
quote:
The singular difference (right now) between last year's team and this year's team is that last year's team had an ELITE defense whereas this year's team defense has been just pretty good. The other, slightly lesser, difference is last year's group was a better offensive rebounding team and better FT shooting team.
Last year's offense was the worst in the Wade era. By a LARGE margin. This year's offense hasn't been good...but it has still been (slightly) better than last year's group (again, thus far).
Have to wait until conf play. Last yrs team had a Top 50 non-conf SOS. This yrs team is currently 158.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:51 pm to rds dc
Kenpom ranking of last year's team at this time was much higher than this year's team is now. So far, it's not a contest. We will have to wait and see if this team can even make the ncaa tournament.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:06 pm to Alt26
quote:
Hill over Pinson (slightly)
Hill is shooting 33/23/65 and they haven’t played a good team yet
He makes Eric Gaines look like Chris jackson
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:21 pm to Alt26
quote:
Hill over Pinson (slightly)
I stopped here, just no.
Pinson was definitely better than Hill has been here, and Hill ha splayed practically nobody yet by comparison.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:28 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Hill is shooting 33/23/65 and they haven’t played a good team yet
Pinson shot 37/24/80 last year, so it's not like he was significantly better. Pinson also averaged 3 turnovers per game...double what Hill is averaging right now. And that was consistently happening in early season games last year...that only got worse once SEC play started.
Hill was shooting 34% (overall) 26% (three) before the last 3 games. Again, not good at all. But in comparison to Pinson's numbers really not that far off.
That's not to say Hill has been great (he hasn't). But I trust him controlling the offense a bit more than Pinson. For reference, LSU was ranked 323rd in the nation last season in turnovers per game. Pinson led LSU in turnovers per game and turned the ball over on nearly 23% of his possessions. Compare that with Hill who, despite being LSU's primary ball handler, is only averaging a little over 1 TO per game (11% of his possessions)
Everyone pissed and moaned about LSU not having a "true PG" last year. Now they have one and some on here are clamoring for the guy they complained about last season. Pinson was a better, though inconsistent scorer, last season. But the only thing he did with consistency was turn the ball over. Give me a PG that takes care of the ball first and foremost.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:34 pm to Alt26
Pinson also a more useful defensive player over a very small Hill.
KJeep in mind you're comparing Pinsons numbers from last year which include a full SEc slate vs. Hill's numbers which are 80% against cupcakes.
Pinson had a 0.2 OBPM and 2.9 DBPM for a 3.1 overall BPM. Hill is -1.7 OBPM and 0.7 DBPM for a total of -1.0 BPM.
Just really not all that close. Hill would barely get any minutes on last year's team. Hannibal wouldnt get any. Hayes I'm warming up to but we'll see how he does vs. SEC.
KJeep in mind you're comparing Pinsons numbers from last year which include a full SEc slate vs. Hill's numbers which are 80% against cupcakes.
Pinson had a 0.2 OBPM and 2.9 DBPM for a 3.1 overall BPM. Hill is -1.7 OBPM and 0.7 DBPM for a total of -1.0 BPM.
Just really not all that close. Hill would barely get any minutes on last year's team. Hannibal wouldnt get any. Hayes I'm warming up to but we'll see how he does vs. SEC.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:39 pm to Alt26
I didn’t think Pinson was good. Hill is worse and not good either
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:36 pm to helllo_heisman002
We don’t watch the same game then…. Last year’s team wins by double digits.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:56 pm to PNG Futbol
quote:
see if this team can even make the ncaa tournament
Very unlikely. Given the epic weakness of the non-con schedule, that would mean the Tigers go at least 12-6 in conference play with a couple upsets of the conference players. It's not happening.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:58 pm to StevieG504
quote:
Miller over Murray
Miller vs Miler?
Miller over Murray from last year isn’t happening. Murray was as important last year as Eason. That’s how why they lost that first game.
Murray is an elite defender and a VERY physical guard
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:01 pm to rds dc
quote:yeah these McMahon can boys want nothing to do with that. They know. This years team with returning vets like Murray, Miller, ONeal and all that talent coming in would have wiped the floor with this bunch and it wouldn’t be close. You’re talking a Top 10 team EASY this year.
Assuming that this is just for fun then a better comparison would be this yrs roster vs this yrs potential roster under Wade.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News