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KState game ending explanation for those who didn't see it...
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:19 pm
4.7 seconds left, LSU down 2.
LSU inbounds the ball, dribbles across court to about the 3pt line, passes to Hannibal who bobbles, recovers, and drives to the basket for a finger roll layup with about .2 or .3 left on the clock in the background. Clock runs out, ruled a good basket, goes to review.
They aren't reviewing the actual shot as it was clearly good. They review the clock operator not starting the clock at the correct time. Clock clearly didn't start on time...looks like clock didn't start until LSU ball handler was about 2-3 strides/1 maybe 2 dribbles up the court (not quite at half court, maybe right in front of the coach's box area). Clock was probably somewhere between .5 seconds and 1 second off, realistically.
Instead of ruling that the clock was operated incorrectly and restarting play with 4.7 seconds again, which I'd completely understand and think would be fair to both teams, they rule that the shot is no good and play is over. They basically assumed that play would have happened exactly like it did if the clock started on time and that Hannibal wouldn't have had time to get it off. Complete bullshite because chances are once Hannibal got the ball and sees less than 2 seconds on the clock, he takes a shot instead of driving to the rim...but when he sees that he has time, he drives. How is he supposed to know in real time that the clock operated choked his one and only job?
If that's the correct ruling by the NCAA rulebook, then that is absolute frickery and needs to be changed immediately. If that's not correct, I'd think that game should be able to be protested or challenged.
LSU inbounds the ball, dribbles across court to about the 3pt line, passes to Hannibal who bobbles, recovers, and drives to the basket for a finger roll layup with about .2 or .3 left on the clock in the background. Clock runs out, ruled a good basket, goes to review.
They aren't reviewing the actual shot as it was clearly good. They review the clock operator not starting the clock at the correct time. Clock clearly didn't start on time...looks like clock didn't start until LSU ball handler was about 2-3 strides/1 maybe 2 dribbles up the court (not quite at half court, maybe right in front of the coach's box area). Clock was probably somewhere between .5 seconds and 1 second off, realistically.
Instead of ruling that the clock was operated incorrectly and restarting play with 4.7 seconds again, which I'd completely understand and think would be fair to both teams, they rule that the shot is no good and play is over. They basically assumed that play would have happened exactly like it did if the clock started on time and that Hannibal wouldn't have had time to get it off. Complete bullshite because chances are once Hannibal got the ball and sees less than 2 seconds on the clock, he takes a shot instead of driving to the rim...but when he sees that he has time, he drives. How is he supposed to know in real time that the clock operated choked his one and only job?
If that's the correct ruling by the NCAA rulebook, then that is absolute frickery and needs to be changed immediately. If that's not correct, I'd think that game should be able to be protested or challenged.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:21 pm to NWLATigerFan12
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that's not correct
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:21 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Here’s the video and a snippet of the rules. LINK
To me, this reads that it should have been a do over
To me, this reads that it should have been a do over
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:23 pm to NWLATigerFan12
I have never seen an official overrule a basket due to a clock operator error. I have followed NCAA basketball for 42 years.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:25 pm to NWLATigerFan12
If the officials don’t notice the clock started late and blow it dead immediately that’s on them. What they just did is made up a ruling and that doesn’t exist.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:26 pm to OneMoreTime
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When a timing mistake or malfunctioning problem occurs that gives a team more time than that team is entitled to, any activity after the mistake or malfunctioning problem has been committed and until it has been rectified shall be canceled,
I guess the questions are - what does “shall be canceled” mean? And what does “until it has been rectified” mean?
I assume re-do the play?
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:26 pm to OneMoreTime
Welp, politz explained it, the officials totally fricked that up. Lsu needs to protest
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:27 pm to TFS4E
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re-do the play
My interpretation as well. Would like to see an official statement on wtf just occured.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:27 pm to josh336
Yeah this is straight forward legitimate outcome protest.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:31 pm to Madking
HS gym HS refs ... I can't believe posters are champions for this nonsense (other threads).
It's either stands and OT game or it's a do-over for 4.7 seconds.
November CBB is the worst. I've said that many times in the past.
It's either stands and OT game or it's a do-over for 4.7 seconds.
November CBB is the worst. I've said that many times in the past.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:31 pm to drizztiger
Im protesting with my book. Had the tigers on the ML.. smfh
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:34 pm to NWLATigerFan12
by my inexact estimate of from when the ball first leaves Trae's hands as the inbounder to when the clock on the screen starts, 1.78 seconds passes. Like I get every human may not be perfect especially with time in basketball where every 0.10 seconds matters but still almost 2 seconds off at the end of your championship game? Mickey Mouse reffing in a Mickey Mouse tournament. No wonder this shite didn't get on TV
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:34 pm to drizztiger
Jr. High refs know better than to do what was just done in that game.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:36 pm to Madking
Utah is about to inbound with 4.6 left down by 3 against State. Let’s see when the clock starts.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:40 pm to Carolina_Tiger
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Trae's hands as the inbounder to when the clock on the screen starts, 1.78 seconds passes.
It doesn’t start when it leaves his hands. It starts when the in bounds player first touches it, so your number is way off.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:40 pm to WhoGeaux
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Yeah this is straight forward legitimate outcome protest.
I feel like 98% of the time we discuss a protest it’s moreso just a bad call
This might legitimately have been done against the rule. I’d for sure file a protest of this game.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:41 pm to Klingler7
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have never seen an official overrule a basket due to a clock operator error. I have followed NCAA basketball for 42 years.
Yeah, Dan Federman says “hi”....I was there for that game. Total BS
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:42 pm to DeathValley85
Yeah a protest here would actually be plausible
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:44 pm to TFS4E
It does not say rectify by cancelling
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