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re: Would ULL be ranked wirh LSUs Schedule? Would LSU be undefeated with ULLs?

Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
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You also can't compare the talent level between the two schools. Napier has consistently won 10 games in a conference full of teams with comparable talent. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this.


Wait - let’s examine that a little closer with the talent level you all proclaim he has recruited “with the number 1 signing classes the last 3 years in the Sun Belt.”
Barely winning against shitty teams with these great classes really speaks volumes.
He wants out of the conference before Butch Jones and Rich Rod bursts his bubble. He knows both of those coaching staffs are far better and Arky St has better facilities. His level is about as high as it will get right now.
People see through these dumbasses that are USL mouth breathers or Lester Earl wants nothing but to destroy LSU. He may actually be the real Lester Earl the worse PoS turncoat.

This was before yesterday’s games:

Here is Napier bull shite to end this bull shite argument and EVEN thought of him being a candidate:
Wins include against a SOS of 87th.
The only P-5 school they played, they lost by 20 to a 4-6 University of Texas.
All of the teams in their division of their conference have a losing record except So Alabama who is 5-5
In those wins includes a 1 point win against a 2-8 Butch Jones Arky State where it took the longest rushing play in their history or 99 yards which was the difference in the game. Jones absolutely out coached his arse that night.

But here is the kicker: their point differential against the teams below which have a combined 23-36 record against everyone else is a -2 total with their self proclaimed No 1! This is why you can’t look at record even within their own division and have to dig deeper.
Texas 4-6 lost by 20
Ga Southern 3-7 won by 8
Ga St 5-5 won by 4
So Alabama 5-5 won by 2
Arky St 2-8 won by 1
FCS Nichols St 7-4 won by 3
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6982 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:40 pm to
Based on what ULM did last night, I'd say LSU would lose to App St, Liberty, Georgia State, Coastal...
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6982 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:42 pm to
You are asking the wrong question. The right ones are, "What would be LSU's record with Napier? What would UL's be with Orgeron?"
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101904 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:47 pm to
You're asking if a Sun Belt team would have the same record playing an SEC schedule and if an SEC team would have the same record playing a Sun Belt schedule?

No. They wouldn't. Stick a roster full of 2 star sunbelt players in the SEC and no its not gonna go well. Like what the hell are you trying to prove with this premise?
Posted by Russ337
NM
Member since Dec 2013
1473 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:56 pm to
The ignorance when it comes to either the hatred for Napier. Or maybe it’s hatred towards ULL is unreal. Now we are comparing schedules? Why would you compare schedules but not give Napier LSU’s talent? The guys coordinators make 300k a year and has GA’s coaching positions. All the while getting the team to buy into what he is selling. If you talk to any coach, they love the guy. Most people who know the game, a lot more than any of us. Love the guy, and what he stands for. You guys bring up stats, if strength of schedule. He will be a top coach either for us or someone else one day sooner than later. The hatred for this man is almost creepy. Somebody from ULL either banged yalls ole lady, or was abused by those mean Cajun fans. Sad really is..
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:02 pm to
If you're trying to make a case for or against Napier, the question needs to be were the record would be if Napier was the coach of the same lsu team
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:07 pm to
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The ignorance when it comes to either the hatred for Napier. Or maybe it’s hatred towards ULL is unreal. Now we are comparing schedules? Why would you compare schedules but not give Napier LSU’s talent? The guys coordinators make 300k a year and has GA’s coaching positions. All the while getting the team to buy into what he is selling. If you talk to any coach, they love the guy. Most people who know the game, a lot more than any of us. Love the guy, and what he stands for. You guys bring up stats, if strength of schedule. He will be a top coach either for us or someone else one day sooner than later. The hatred for this man is almost creepy. Somebody from ULL either banged yalls ole lady, or was abused by those mean Cajun fans. Sad really is..

Why should we expect Napier's success in the Sun Belt to relate to the SEC? Is it just as easy to get a 2 star player in the Sun Belt out of position as a 4 star player in the SEC? Is it just as easy to get a 2 star CB in the Sun Belt to bite on a fake as a 4 or 5 star corner in the SEC? And if he does bite, is he going to have the same chance to recover? Is it just as easy for a quick running back to get to the corner in the SEC as it is in the Sun Belt? And are we to expect that it is just as hard to out coach all those Sun Belt coaches as it would be SEC coaches?

It's obviously not the same. I don't hate Napier. I don't hate ULL. I just don't think you are making a reasonable argument.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29595 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:15 pm to
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You are asking the wrong question. The right ones are, "What would be LSU's record with Napier? What would UL's be with Orgeron?"


No I’m not. This thread was the a rebuttal to the bull shite spewed about ranking as compared to Clemson, MSU, etc.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29595 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:19 pm to
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That whole ULl is ranked above these teams thread was one of the dumbest Napier threads I've seen in a while and that's saying something.


These mouth breathers are the same ones that were clamoring for Orgeron - Lester Earl being one. We know they aren’t LSU fans.

We aren’t falling for that shite.

I wish Napier nothing but the best and don’t give 2 shots if he goes to UF or wherever and does well. It doesn’t matter. Just go provide yourself worthy of the job by coaching better against the 81st ranked SOS. Hey
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17516 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:20 pm to
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Barely winning against shitty teams with these great classes really speaks volumes.


So your issue with Napier is that his wins aren't pretty enough? All I ask is that my team score at least one more point than their opponent. Napier's last three seasons have resulted in 11, 10 and 10 wins. He's winning consistently.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:26 pm to
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Napier's last three seasons have resulted in 11, 10 and 10 wins. He's winning consistently.
In the Sun Belt at a much lower level of competition against coaches that are much weaker than he'll face in the SEC. Not the same.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:29 pm to
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Imber


So are you saying if it came down to it Napier wouldn't be a bad hire or are you saying we should hire him over all other options?

One of those makes sense the other is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6842 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:43 pm to
They’re a G5 school. Of course they wouldn’t be undefeated with LSUs schedule. What kind of thinking is this?
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17516 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:57 pm to
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So are you saying if it came down to it Napier wouldn't be a bad hire or are you saying we should hire him over all other options?



I'm saying he would be a good hire. He is not my first choice.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36611 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Also, hasn't App state and Coastal Carolina also won around 10 games a year in the past few years? Where do you put those coaches on


A) app state coach did not build them and was handed that job with built team. And he has never been a part of a big program and only been there 2 years. Also hr is not a recruiter and Napier has built ull where they are straight up just better program than app state so long as he is at ull.

B) Chadwell has never been a part of a big program. Never left the Carolinas to coach. Runs a gimmicky offense that relies heavily on qb run. Also not a recruiter and did everything they could to get the conf championship game cancelled last year......oh and the whole major ncaa infractions against him thing.

Both coaches fall into the likely to fail g6 coaches. Never been apart of big huge championship p5 program and not big recruiters and in app states case....kiss of death which is didn't build the program and very little track record.

So yea frick off with that take. There is a reason nap is on top of Florida's list too.

He is my #5 but after Riley most of my top 5 said no already. I fricking know I would much rather napier than stoops and even more than kiffon.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71993 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:09 pm to
Holy melt
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29595 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:36 pm to
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So your issue with Napier is that his wins aren't pretty enough? All I ask is that my team score at least one more point than their opponent. Napier's last three seasons have resulted in 11, 10 and 10 wins. He's winning consistently.

Yeah - so was Les Miles. Who is his competition in that shitty Sunbelt conference? Let’s wait a few years and let Rich Rod, Freeze, and Jones get their programs rolling. T
2 of the 3 just started this season and Freeze just when covid happened.

He wants out now really bad because he knows the inevitable - he won’t be able to compete.

Beating up on the little sisters of the poor instead of taking a paycheck is all you need to know.

81
81
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81 STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE.

They play absolutely dog shite teams and barely win. When they played on decent team early in the season, they got their arse handed to them by 20. That team is 4-6.
Posted by ElJefe686
Houston
Member since Nov 2012
876 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:37 pm to
Your in depth analysis of the matchups such as “no”, “lol”, and “nope” has convinced me.

I like your ideas. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53085 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:37 pm to
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This is a rebuttal to the Bull shite on USLs ranking. Let’s have some fun. There isn’t a team on ULLs schedule that LSU wouldn’t beat. Who on LSUs schedule where they played them would ULL beat? Bama - no Ole Miss - no Arky - absolutely no lolololol - Arkansas would control the TOP and the LOS. Mississippi st - no not even close if you watched the Arky St and Nicholas st games. Auburn - no Tank would destroy them. UF - no freaking way. Mullen would have destroyed them UK - lolololol UCLA - nope ULL would be an 8 loss team with LSUs schedule and at worse LSU may have lost to UT, but would have blown the doors off of others especially because the players would have stayed. Just retarded to think otherwise. You can’t compare the 81st SOS with 16th. LSU was 4 until they played ULM YESTERDAY. That’s how bad the Sun Belt is as a conference. Here’s how I know he isn’t all that and that team isn’t all that. Wait - let’s examine that a little closer with the talent level you all proclaim he has recruited “with the number 1 signing classes the last 3 years in the Sun Belt.” Barely winning against shitty teams with these great classes really speaks volumes. He wants out of the conference before Butch Jones and Rich Rod bursts his bubble. He knows both of those coaching staffs are far better and Arky St has better facilities. His level is about as high as it will get right now. People see through these dumbasses that are USL mouth breathers or Lester Earl wants nothing but to destroy LSU. He may actually be the real Lester Earl the worse PoS turncoat. This was before yesterday’s games: Here is Napier bull shite to end this bull shite argument and EVEN thought of him being a candidate: Wins include against a SOS of 87th. The only P-5 school they played, they lost by 20 to a 4-6 University of Texas. All of the teams in their division of their conference have a losing record except So Alabama who is 5-5 In those wins includes a 1 point win against a 2-8 Butch Jones Arky State where it took the longest rushing play in their history or 99 yards which was the difference in the game. Jones absolutely out coached his arse that night. But here is the kicker: their point differential against the teams below which have a combined 23-36 record against everyone else is a -2 total with their self proclaimed No 1! This is why you can’t look at record even within their own division and have to dig deeper. Texas 4-6 lost by 20 Ga Southern 3-7 won by 8 Ga St 5-5 won by 4 So Alabama 5-5 won by 2 Arky St 2-8 won by 1 FCS Nichols St 7-4 won by 3


It’s alarming that you took the time to conjure up all that
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36611 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:49 pm to
Wtf dude rich rod isn't even the head coach. Bowden and rich rod can't recruit for shite.

Freeze has been there years now and had a Heisman caliber qb returning this year and couldn't do it


Jones has been a failure every time he didn't follow Brian Kelly. I'm sure napier is shaking in his boots worried about the team with the worst record in the division.

Gtfo of here with this. He is looking to get the damn lsu or uf jobs. That is a huge step up, of course he wants those jobs. But he has passed up plenty of better jobs than ull and didn't jump or pulled his name out.

I'm ok with not wanting napier but don't just make shite up. Be honest.
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