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re: Would Napier be mentioned at all here if he was the App State head coach?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:56 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:56 pm to Goldrush25
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G5 coaches get jobs at schools 2 years removed from winning the NC? When is the last time that's happened?
Maybe not 2 years..... but Tresell getting the Ohio St gig is similar.
Coordinators such as Smart, Day, and Riley have done fine with no HC experience....
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:57 pm to Fun Bunch
The inconsistency between “we can’t hire Matt Campbell because he’s not familiar with recruiting Louisiana” and “we can’t hire Billy Napier because he’s too familiar with Louisiana” is wild.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:59 pm to macaoidh
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you want to hire a guy who's built and won at least twice because then you know it isn't luck.
Ideally, yes. But that’s a limited pool I’d imagine. Campbell, Fleck… off the top of my head. Anyone I’m missing?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:59 pm to Ocardowin
What
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:00 pm to Fun Bunch
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Obviously not.
So one of the only reasons he’s mentioned is because he’s coached 4 seasons at a Sunbelt school in La. It’s truly bizarre.
He may end up being a great P5 coach but people on here have him as their #1 above guys like Riley, or Rhule, or Campbell, or even someone like Aranda.
I am totally perplexed by this.
Because they want to become the Texas Longhorns. Anyone openly self-promoting for the job like Orgeron did, should not be allowed anywhere near Baton Rouge.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:06 pm to Dlab2013
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Coordinators such as Smart, Day, and Riley have done fine with no HC experience....
A coordinator taking over while already in the program is an entirely different deal.
Kirby wasn't just an ordinary coordinator. He was the top coordinator in the country for the better part of 8 years before the UGA gig.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:13 pm to Goldrush25
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Kirby wasn't just an ordinary coordinator. He was the top coordinator in the country for the better part of 8 years before the UGA gig.
So hire Brent Venerable..... it’s not always that simple.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:53 pm to Fun Bunch
Well the last two coaches at App got P5 jobs. One in the SEC. Neither had coached under Saban and Dabo though.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:00 pm to Tigersonfire
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If App St was in the top 25 two years in a row and had upset several ranked teams then yes he’d be mentioned. Saying other wise is just silly.
Neal Brown, Satterfield, and Drinkwitz have actually won the Sun Belt, and ended up at West Virginia, Louisville, and Missouri, respectively. Their results at bigger programs have been a mixed bag, at best.
Did anyone here ever seriously mention wanting one of those guys at LSU?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:30 am to Goldrush25
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G5 coaches get jobs at schools 2 years removed from winning the NC? When is the last time that's happened?
Auburn with Gus Malzahn in 2012.
How old are you?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:35 am to Fun Bunch
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But the Napier thing is really pervasive. And it’s solely because he’s a coach in La.
Bama assistant for four years so he knows what it's suppose to look like. Has recruited the state of LA for almost a decade now.
But I do agree, if he were putting up similar results in the MAC, most on this board wouldn't know his name.
Napier getting the LSU job would be skipping a step in his coaching journey but at this point I'd almost say roll the dice on him with a greatly reduced buyout after year 3. Any hire you make is going to be a crap shoot.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:42 am to skullhawk
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But I do agree, if he were putting up similar results in the MAC, most on this board wouldn't know his name.
Are we supposed to pretend that geography is irrelevant?
Knowledge of the recruiting area is important. Familiarity with the state is important. Knowledge of the SEC and surrounding states is valuable.
As I've said, he's not my choice, but to chalk him up as some random G5 coach no different than one halfway across the country is dumb.
If Lincoln Riley was putting up big numbers at Oregon State I doubt anyone would be talking about him.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:44 am to Fun Bunch
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he didn’t get any of them,
So you don't believe all the reports he turned down those jobs because he would not be allowed to choose all his staff?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
Maybe it's because he's about to give ULL their 3rd and only 10+ win seasons in program history.
Maybe because he led them to a national ranking last season and they are ranked again this year.
Maybe because he has coaching experience at Clemson and Bama.
Maybe because he's been considered for multiple P5 programs already.
Maybe because he's very well respected in coaching circles as a very good coach.
He's not at the top of my list, but he's done enough to garner interest as a rising coach.
Maybe because he led them to a national ranking last season and they are ranked again this year.
Maybe because he has coaching experience at Clemson and Bama.
Maybe because he's been considered for multiple P5 programs already.
Maybe because he's very well respected in coaching circles as a very good coach.
He's not at the top of my list, but he's done enough to garner interest as a rising coach.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:49 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Are we supposed to pretend that geography is irrelevant?
Yes because it is.
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Knowledge of the recruiting area is important. Familiarity with the state is important.
Neither are important at all.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
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Chadwell gets brought up a little but pretty immediately dismissed.
But the Napier thing is really pervasive. And it’s solely because he’s a coach in La.
It shows how little some people watch Ull. I want nothing to do with Napier. Chadwell runs an interesting offense at least
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:50 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Are we supposed to pretend that geography is irrelevant?
Knowledge of the recruiting area is important. Familiarity with the state is important. Knowledge of the SEC and surrounding states is valuable.
As I've said, he's not my choice, but to chalk him up as some random G5 coach no different than one halfway across the country is dumb.
If Lincoln Riley was putting up big numbers at Oregon State I doubt anyone would be talking about him.
This has been proven wrong in coaching hires time and again
If you're good, you're good
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
Winning is winning, the bigger the stage the harder, but the easiest way to stay employed for a coach is "Just Win, Baby ".
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:58 am to Fun Bunch
Well, Most Florida fans have Napier in their Top3, so it’s not like other non-Louisiana big programs don’t have their eye on him.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:59 am to Fun Bunch
Not sure. I think more posters know who he is because he’s a Louisiana school coach but I doubt that there are many that want him for that reason. People are always looking for “their” candidate to cling to.
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