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Would Napier be mentioned at all here if he was the App State head coach?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:20 pm
Obviously not.
So one of the only reasons he’s mentioned is because he’s coached 4 seasons at a Sunbelt school in La. It’s truly bizarre.
He may end up being a great P5 coach but people on here have him as their #1 above guys like Riley, or Rhule, or Campbell, or even someone like Aranda.
I am totally perplexed by this.
So one of the only reasons he’s mentioned is because he’s coached 4 seasons at a Sunbelt school in La. It’s truly bizarre.
He may end up being a great P5 coach but people on here have him as their #1 above guys like Riley, or Rhule, or Campbell, or even someone like Aranda.
I am totally perplexed by this.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:21 pm to Fun Bunch
I'd be really surprised if that's who we end up hiring.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:23 pm to Fun Bunch
He’s one of us adjacent.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:23 pm to Fun Bunch
Is Chadwell being mentioned at all here?
There's your answer.
There's your answer.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:25 pm to Cs
Chadwell gets brought up a little but pretty immediately dismissed.
But the Napier thing is really pervasive. And it’s solely because he’s a coach in La.
But the Napier thing is really pervasive. And it’s solely because he’s a coach in La.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:25 pm to Fun Bunch
I actually don’t think that’s the question.
The question is, would he even be on the list if he wasn’t a WR coach at Alabama fit a few years (long after their dynasty was already established btw).
Some want so desperately to believe in the idea that he is “the next Saban”, that I don’t think it matters all that much that he’s “from LA”, no matter how much they say it.
If he was WR coach at Clemson or OSU those years instead of Alabama, and he had the exact same record at UL, I honestly don’t think he’s even in the discussion.
The question is, would he even be on the list if he wasn’t a WR coach at Alabama fit a few years (long after their dynasty was already established btw).
Some want so desperately to believe in the idea that he is “the next Saban”, that I don’t think it matters all that much that he’s “from LA”, no matter how much they say it.
If he was WR coach at Clemson or OSU those years instead of Alabama, and he had the exact same record at UL, I honestly don’t think he’s even in the discussion.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:26 pm to Fun Bunch
I have no problem with what Napier has done at ULL.
If he's the hire I won't be upset at all.
But with Napier you have a risk, the same as you do with Aranda and even Mel Tucker - which is that none of them have built multiple programs.
When a guy has only built once, you don't know for sure if it's not just a good group of players who are responsible for his success.
Call it the Curley Hallman factor. Hallman is actually the coach with the best pre-LSU record of all of our modern hires. But it had nothing to do with Curley - it was the fact he had Brett Favre, Michael Jackson and Tony Smith all at the same time playing Southern Miss' schedule.
I don't think any of those guys are Curley Hallmans. I'm comfortable with any of them. But on balance, you want to hire a guy who's built and won at least twice because then you know it isn't luck.
If he's the hire I won't be upset at all.
But with Napier you have a risk, the same as you do with Aranda and even Mel Tucker - which is that none of them have built multiple programs.
When a guy has only built once, you don't know for sure if it's not just a good group of players who are responsible for his success.
Call it the Curley Hallman factor. Hallman is actually the coach with the best pre-LSU record of all of our modern hires. But it had nothing to do with Curley - it was the fact he had Brett Favre, Michael Jackson and Tony Smith all at the same time playing Southern Miss' schedule.
I don't think any of those guys are Curley Hallmans. I'm comfortable with any of them. But on balance, you want to hire a guy who's built and won at least twice because then you know it isn't luck.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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But the Napier thing is really pervasive. And it’s solely because he’s a coach in La.
That’s not true. If he hasn’t coached at both Clemson & Alabama, he’d just be mark hudspeth. Who was never mentioned for the LSU job when Miles was on the hot seat, & he had four straight 9-4 seasons at ULL.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:30 pm to Fun Bunch
Would he be mentioned at Auburn, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, TCU?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:33 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
None of which except maybe Auburn are even remotely the job LSU is, he didn’t get any of them, and I’m not convinced he really was in actual consideration for any.
I think he may be a good coach. And it may work out when he does get a P5 job.
But the level of devotion he gets on here is weird.
I think he may be a good coach. And it may work out when he does get a P5 job.
But the level of devotion he gets on here is weird.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:40 pm to Lester Earl
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he’d just be mark hudspeth.
Did Napier dump his wife and marry a student? Hudspeth did that at UNA.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:44 pm to Fun Bunch
He’s not my choice, but G5 coaches get top jobs often.
To act like it’s unheard of is absurd.
To act like it’s unheard of is absurd.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:45 pm to Fun Bunch
If App St was in the top 25 two years in a row and had upset several ranked teams then yes he’d be mentioned. Saying other wise is just silly.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:46 pm to Fun Bunch
A lot of auburn folks have debunked the story of him having the offer
I think Napier has stood pat for the shot at this job. Easier to market himself 45 minutes down the road and stay relevant in local headlines
I think Napier has stood pat for the shot at this job. Easier to market himself 45 minutes down the road and stay relevant in local headlines
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:47 pm to Fun Bunch
I haven’t seen anyone that has had him over those guys you mentioned.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:49 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Reportedly he turned down Auburn and South Carolina.
None of which except maybe Auburn are even remotely the job LSU is
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:50 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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If he was WR coach at Clemson or OSU those years instead of Alabama, and he had the exact same record at UL, I honestly don’t think he’s even in the discussion.
It’s not the people on here who happen to know about and like Napier as a coach who are putting him in the conversation.
He’s in the conversation because he’s a legitimate candidate. No one on this message board has anything to do with that.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:51 pm to Fun Bunch
If he beat drummed Iowa State and was like 30-5 the last 3 years sure
The only reason why ULL matters is because we’ve all spent our lives watching ULL suck.
The only reason why ULL matters is because we’ve all spent our lives watching ULL suck.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:54 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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He’s not my choice, but G5 coaches get top jobs often.
G5 coaches get jobs at schools 2 years removed from winning the NC? When is the last time that's happened?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:54 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Would he be mentioned at Auburn, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, TCU?
There’s idiots here that won’t get your statement......
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