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Why is it so difficult to find great coaches?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:27 pm
In the end, it really seems like a crap shoot.
So many of the best coaches come out of nowhere. And so often the reputation of a coach completely changes after one year.
Malzahn was not considered a home run hire by Auburn. Many people saw it as a desperation move in hopes of finding the magic from the title season. It worked. Now, people think he would be a good hire for Texas.
Is Saban really THAT good. He has had some great bounces to be so successful. I think he is the best, but things happened completely out of his control to give him 3 of his national championships.
I'm starting to think that there are good coaches and bad coaches. Then there are lucky coaches. Find a lucky one because every good coach is working their arse off just the same.
You can't buy championships in football, college or pro.
Rich Rod, Mike Leach, Brian Kelly, the list goes on of coaches who are considered the best one day and average the next.
So many of the best coaches come out of nowhere. And so often the reputation of a coach completely changes after one year.
Malzahn was not considered a home run hire by Auburn. Many people saw it as a desperation move in hopes of finding the magic from the title season. It worked. Now, people think he would be a good hire for Texas.
Is Saban really THAT good. He has had some great bounces to be so successful. I think he is the best, but things happened completely out of his control to give him 3 of his national championships.
I'm starting to think that there are good coaches and bad coaches. Then there are lucky coaches. Find a lucky one because every good coach is working their arse off just the same.
You can't buy championships in football, college or pro.
Rich Rod, Mike Leach, Brian Kelly, the list goes on of coaches who are considered the best one day and average the next.
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Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:33 pm to SwaggerCopter
Because most of them are in the NFL right now.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:39 pm to SwaggerCopter
Because Saban is the only great coach alive.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Is Saban really THAT good.
A major strength of his is being able to maintain that intensity and perfectionism without burning out or at least easing back a little.
Like somebody before me mentioned, those guys exist but tend to go to the NFL and stay there.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:48 pm to SwaggerCopter
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You can't buy championships in football, college or pro.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 2:59 pm to SwaggerCopter
If they were easy to find, that would disqualify them from being 'great' since it is a relative term.
Not trying to be a smartass, but it's the truth.
Not trying to be a smartass, but it's the truth.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:02 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Why is it so difficult to find great coaches?
because being a really successful d1 football coach is probably one of the most difficult jobs in the world and there is no recipe for doing it, and coaches are constantly changing how they do it.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:06 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I'm starting to think that there are good coaches and bad coaches. Then there are lucky coaches. Find a lucky one because every good coach is working their arse off just the same.
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity....Bear Bryant
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:10 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Why is it so difficult to find great coaches?
It's a fair question. In today's college football there's Saban and everyone else? Why is that?
Personally I think NS would have been very successful at whatever he did in his life. He seems driven that way...like a Michael Jordan.
Here's a hypothesis: most driven people like that tend to go the business route and end up running a business or starting a business. Also the path of becoming a coach is brutal.
It's brutal like the path of a boxer. You have to want it more than anything else in life. You aren't going to make anything starting out, you are going to have to move frequently and it will greatly stress your marriage, family and yourself.
I can see why people aren't lining up around the corner to do it.
But the question is legit. Why is there only one many on the planet who can currently build a college football program that can consistently win championships?
My answer is that the other "great" leaders are running very profitable companies.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:14 pm to mattloc
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Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity....Bear Bryant
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:18 pm to SwaggerCopter
Mike Leach or Jim Mora are the best choices I have seen floating around.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:20 pm to SwaggerCopter
Miles used to be really lucky, but it seems that is fading
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:21 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Is Saban really THAT good. He has had some great bounces to be so successful. I think he is the best, but things happened completely out of his control to give him 3 of his national championships.
Agreed. He's out of the 2011 and 2012 games if people take care of business. Even with 2 national titles he may be seen as the best in the business. He's a phenomenal coach, but he is good for a loss every year to a team he realistically should beat. Bama was favored by like 13 over Auburn, and was a big favorite over A&M too.
Being a great head coach is hard after people figure out your tendencies
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:22 pm to mattloc
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Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity....Bear Bryant
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:29 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:Only a complete retard didn't think Malzahn was a homerun hire. He was the best offensive coach in football who even proved himself as a head coach for a year.
Malzahn was not considered a home run hire by Auburn.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:44 pm to Tds & Beer
yep and even the best ones end up getting fired
Fulmer, Mack (pretty much fired), Bowden (same deal)
and the list goes on
Fulmer, Mack (pretty much fired), Bowden (same deal)
and the list goes on
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:45 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Mike Leach
I think he's still regarded as a very good coach. Washington State might be the hardest job in the FBS. It's a school that should probably be in the MWC but competing against some great CFB programs in the Pac 12
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:47 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:Yes, there has been some luck but even then, no program in the country has lost fewer games in the last 5 years. The team has still been fantastic.
Is Saban really THAT good. He has had some great bounces to be so successful. I think he is the best, but things happened completely out of his control to give him 3 of his national championships.
To answer your question, there are a lot of pretty good coaches that inherit bad situations at big programs. These programs want success immediately, and coaches are prone to make rash decisions on coordinators in particular because of the pressure. Also, the best coaches usually go to the nfl.
I think there is a solid chance the next coach to take over Texas will be successful because the program really isn't in bad shape.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:51 pm to Buckeye06
Fact is, the same argument could be made about any championship in any sport in any season. A few plays or bounce of the ball makes you a champion ....or not.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:00 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Why is it so difficult to find great coaches?
Because at the college level the talent, aka their recruiting and development, matters more than the Xs and Os.
And there is only so much talent to go around.
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