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Why is Gary Patterson still at TCU?

Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:44 pm
Everyone keeps asking why Chris Peterson hasn't gotten a bigger job. He's only in his forth year, and took over a program that averaged 10.5 wins under the previous coach.

Gary Patterson has had 10+ wins in six out of his nine seasons and took over a program that averaged 8 wins under the previous coach.

Are there dead bodies in the closet holding him back like Brian Kelly?
Posted by windriver
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:47 pm to
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Why is Gary Patterson still at TCU?


Maybe he is a devoted Baptist and making more money is not his prority.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:51 pm to
According to Wikipedia he turned down a $2MM a year offer from Minnesota. I don't think he's still there from lack of interest on the part of BCS conf schools.

An argument can be made though that because of the love his conference gets and the location of TCU, his situation may be better than most BCS conference schools that offer him a job.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:52 pm to
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Maybe he is a devoted Baptist


Well then he needs to head about 100 miles south because TCU is affliated with the Discples of Christ not the Baptists.
Posted by Lakebound
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:56 pm to
Or he could start a football program at Dallas Baptist.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:58 pm to
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Or he could start a football program at Dallas Baptist.


they already have a very legit baseball program
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:59 pm to
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An argument can be made though that because of the love his conference gets and the location of TCU, his situation may be better than most BCS conference schools that offer him a job.


I can buy waiting for the right opportunity, but I doubt he is there much longer unless there are some skelatons I am not aware of. The past couple of years I have not heard his name mentioned for many jobs which is surprising given his resume(I apparently missed the Minnesota offer though).
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 2:04 pm to
I have wondered the same thing. I thought he was a lock for Kansas State last year. Perhaps he's waiting for the Texas A&M job to open?

I could see him leaving if ND strikes out on Meyer, Stoops, etc and looks to Patterson for a defensive minded coach.

He is a more proven candidate than Kelly because, unlike Kelly, he has beaten some quality, big name programs.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 2:06 pm to
He's a KState alumn. KState offered him the job when they hired Ron Prince I believe and they may have offered it again before Snyder came back.

He'd be a fool to leave TCU unless it's for a top-5 job. He makes the most in the MWC, he has a system in place that puts him in the top 2 or 3 in the MWC every year, and given the fact that he's the only MWC school in Texas, he has access to talent that the rest of the conference can't really compete with.
Posted by Dorsey07
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 2:06 pm to
Fertile recruiting base within a 3hr radius, ability to be dominate in a league and get to BCS which gives him and his program exposure. Plus making good money now allows him to be selective, smart if you ask me.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 2:58 pm to
If he gets to a BCS bowl this year the time would be ripe for him to accept an offer from a powerhouse program with an opening

Saying no to Minnesota is a good idea... short of north dakota and wyoming I don't see harder places to recruit kids to - a program of lesser significance than it's in conference competitors... with some of the worst weather in the country
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 4:08 pm to



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Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 4:19 pm to
A friend of mine (TCU ALUM) told me yesterday that he's making around 3 mil. I know it's reported 1.3, but just telling you what i was told. Lots of wealthy folks associated with TCU!
Posted by CunningLinguist
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 6:29 pm to
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A friend of mine (TCU ALUM) told me yesterday that he's making around 3 mil. I know it's reported 1.3, but just telling you what i was told


He isn't making 3 million period. With endorsements, etc. he's probably making around 1.8-2 million. That's great money for a non-BCS school. He's making bank and has a great situation at TCU. If he's going to leave there now, it's going to be for a real good situation. Not some shite show like Louisville or say Syracuse.
This post was edited on 11/20/09 at 6:30 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21558 posts
Posted on 11/20/09 at 8:52 pm to
My guess is there's only a handful of jobs he'd leave for. Until then he's a stayer.

Not a TCU fan but have lots of respect for the way they play defense.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:15 pm to
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He's a KState alumn. KState offered him the job when they hired Ron Prince I believe and they may have offered it again before Snyder came back.


Snyder offered someone a Jimbo/ Muschamp deal. FYI


The last time a coach moved from TCU, he went on to do so well.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11719 posts
Posted on 11/21/09 at 8:33 am to
ESPN already had a segment on this, and supposedly, the reason he's staying put is because he's tired of packing up and moving.

Kansas State (1982)
Tennessee Tech (1983-1984)
UC-Davis (1986)
Cal Lutheran (1987)
Pittsburg State (1988)
Sonoma State (1989-1991)
Oregon Lightning Bolts (1992)
Utah State (1992-1994)
Navy (1995)
New Mexico (1996-1998)
TCU (1998-2000, as defensive coordinator)
TCU (2000-present, as head coach)

That's a legitimate reason for wanting to stay put. You're having success here; and you've moved all over the country for various jobs; maybe he likes it in Fort Worth.

Paraphrasing what he said: "I've seen enough moving vans in my lifetime..." He's in no rush.
Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 11/21/09 at 11:46 am to
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That's a legitimate reason for wanting to stay put. You're having success here; and you've moved all over the country for various jobs; maybe he likes it in Fort Worth.

Paraphrasing what he said: "I've seen enough moving vans in my lifetime..." He's in no rush.

this absolutely makes sense especially since Gary has 3 boys ages 21,14,10. He's found a great place to coach football, he's making plenty of money, he's well respected around Ft. Worth, and then there's the stability factor for his kids.
Posted by ornagestorm
Oregon
Member since Jun 2008
5105 posts
Posted on 11/21/09 at 12:03 pm to
I do not see him going to a school unless it was a big one. Minnesota would not be that mush of a move up from TCU. He's got it made at TCU and will not go unless it is a great deal and school.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 11/21/09 at 12:21 pm to
TCU>Minny.
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