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re: Why doesn't UAB fire Garrick McGee?

Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:45 am to
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:45 am to
UAB should hire Coach O.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32629 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:50 am to
UAB football became irrelevant the day the BOT turned down the opportunity to hire Jimbo Fisher away from LSU and instead went with Neal Calloway.

I remember them having one really good season about 10 years ago, and even then the fans couldn't halfway fill Legion Field. If UAB is anything, it's a basketball school. Not enough support to be successful at football.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:04 am to
They could have a good program. A ~40k stadium is needed. Also, I've always thought the UAB coach should pull from the local talent (Hoover, Vestavia, etc.), and try to make it a "local" team.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12809 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:10 am to
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He would probably be the actual HC at Arkansas if he hadn't left. He was loved here and a huge part of the offense and QB development over the course of the Petrino years. He definitely caught a bad break by taking off months before the Petrino disaster.



He would've gotten the interim job instead of JLS, but the results in '12 still wouldn't have been very good.

I'm glad it worked out the way it did. It was painfully clear last year that Petrino was what made the offense tick, and that you can't replicate the results of a Bobby Petrino offense without Bobby Petrino. If we'd promoted someone like McGee and he'd led us to something like 7 or 8 wins, we'd have been forced to give him to job instead of doing a legitimate coaching search and ending up with Bielema.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Why doesn't UAB fire Garrick McGee?


Probably because UAB football shouldn't exist, and has such existential issues of funding and viability that it has the worst facilities in D1-A football.

UAB football is a money pit

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UAB football became irrelevant the day the BOT turned down the opportunity to hire Jimbo Fisher away from LSU and instead went with Neal Calloway


This is still an urban legend. IF Jimbo was willing to walk into the rat tank of UAB football I would reconsider any ideas of Jimbo being intelligent.

I still think Jimbo wanted a raise and the BOT bought into the agent's tale.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:23 am
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13580 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:55 am to
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Personally I would love uab to have a decent football program. It would be great for Birmingham if they had a team decent enough to draw large enough crowds to warrant a new stadium. I'm not paying money to watch a 3-8 team play at legion field though. I'd consider going if they were a 7-5 or 6-6 team though


Same here. I have two degrees from Troy, as well as my wife and her brother having a degree from Troy, but living here in Birmingham I'd go catch a game from time to time if they were decent. My Dad went to UAB back before they had a team, so most of my family are Alabama fans. I still pull for Alabama, but Troy is my number one. But I would like to see the local team do well.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:14 am to
Sounds like Jackie Williams had an attitude problem.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:44 am to
McGee Contract Summary

I guess he won't be earning the $100,000 national championship bonus.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55419 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:22 pm to
if that ever happens he deserves a 10,000,000 bonus
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13580 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:15 pm to
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This is still an urban legend. IF Jimbo was willing to walk into the rat tank of UAB football I would reconsider any ideas of Jimbo being intelligent.


Were the stadium plans and the JF talks at the same time? I could have seen him going there, coaching a season or two after the new stadium is complete, then moving on.
Posted by TommyM
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:13 pm to
The stadium was after JF, before GMG, IIRC.

Jimbo was coming. whether or not he would have stayed very long, who knows. Doubtful. But the job was his.

In a perfect world, UAB could have a successful football program, but it's not a perfect world.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6419 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:58 pm to
Because the UAT board wont' let them. Remember, they wouldn't let them hire Jimbo Fisher. No school is totally screwed by its own board as UAB is.
That said, he's only been there 2 years.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3742 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:15 pm to
If Jimbo Fisher was seriously going to take the UAB HC job over the FSU OC/Coach in Waiting job and the BOT is what kept it from happening then Jimbo needs to send them a thank you gift every day for the rest of his life.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

he argument, and it's a good one I suppose, is that without football, basketball would be dropped to an even shittier conference than the Neo-Sun Belt that CUSA has become. But, the football program has so much going against it, I don't know that it would be successful if Nick Saban was coaching.

UAB will completely screw their b-ball team if they drop down a division

At some point money has to be spent. Jacksonville State and Alabama State have all gotten new stadiums within the last 5 years or so. I believe UAB is the only school in the state that does not have an on campus stadium. Have there even been upgrades to Bartow within the last 10 years?

The school should invest in a nice multi-purpose facility for athletics along with a stadium. Telling a coach to build a CFB program from Legion Field in this day and age is setting him up for failure.

Honestly, if I was McGee I would get out while I can, take an OC position, rebuild my rep, and wait for a job at a school that gives a frick about football
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3742 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:46 pm to
USA plays off campus.

Bartow has had the standard upgrades over the past couple of years (new floor, score/videoboards, etc.)

Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:16 pm to
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Have there even been upgrades to Bartow within the last 10 years?



Yea new court, they have a brand new locker room and players lounge. Has to be best in their conference there.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:23 pm to
Glad to know there's been some investment in Bartow and little extra in football may go a long way
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13580 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 8:56 am to
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USA plays off campus


For now they do, but they've only had a team a few years. They have plans to build a new stadium and get out of Ladd Peebles.

South Alabama acting-president Dr. John Smith announced plans to create an on-campus football stadium that would be completed in time for the 2016 football season at a press conference in front of Moulton Tower last Friday, March 29.
The stadium, which would be named Moulton Field in honor of retiring president Gordon Moulton, will be located in the area currently occupied by the soccer, softball and track and field complexes. Those facilities will be relocated to the land at the corner of Hillcrest and Old Shell Road.

Read more:
LINK



Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:39 pm to
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I remember them having one really good season about 10 years ago, and even then the fans couldn't halfway fill Legion Field. If UAB is anything, it's a basketball school. Not enough support to be successful at football.


come on now

why would you think a school with basically no winning tradition would suddenly be able to fill a 70k stadium in the one year they were halfway decent?
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:45 pm to
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UAB will completely screw their b-ball team if they drop down a division


Completely disagree.

UAB was doing just fine with playing schools like DePaul, USF, and VCU.
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