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re: Why can't aTm fire Jimbo?
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:39 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:39 pm to Dr RC
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Sonny Dykes
Mike Elko
Hugh Freeze
Lane Kiffin
Dave Clawson
Chip Kelly
Luke Fickell
Mike Houston
Gus Malzahn
Jeff Traylor
David Aranda
Mike Campbell
Lance Leipold
Kris Klieman
PJ Fleck
Jamey Chadwell
Here are some guys who would be expensive and some who would be not so expensive. Throw a dart and whoever it hits will do.
And how long do those guys get before you replace them? Then you potentially are paying 3 coaches. People are thinking well a new coach can’t be any worse, but your buyout debt sure as hell can get worse.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:41 pm to Mr Sausage
I honestly think aTm is in the proverbial rock and a hard place here, and I find it hard to look away.
As an LSU fan, my interest in this (beyond the train-wreck nature of it all and my enjoyment of Aggy tears) is: I genuinely want the best competition possible. The SEC has the "It Just Means More" ad campaign yeah, but over the past 20 years or so we have seen time and again (OU, Notre Dame, Ohio State a few times, etc) where a team is head-and-shoulders better than the teams in their conference and win it relatively "easily." When they get to the playoff or the title game with a season of maybe one tough game where they had to push themselves more than they anticipated, they proceed to get their doors blown off by superior competition. Not necessarily a superior team, (though sometimes that was purely the case) but superior competition - a team that played harder, grittier games and developed the ability to play at a high level as a matter of course.
As an LSU fan, my interest in this (beyond the train-wreck nature of it all and my enjoyment of Aggy tears) is: I genuinely want the best competition possible. The SEC has the "It Just Means More" ad campaign yeah, but over the past 20 years or so we have seen time and again (OU, Notre Dame, Ohio State a few times, etc) where a team is head-and-shoulders better than the teams in their conference and win it relatively "easily." When they get to the playoff or the title game with a season of maybe one tough game where they had to push themselves more than they anticipated, they proceed to get their doors blown off by superior competition. Not necessarily a superior team, (though sometimes that was purely the case) but superior competition - a team that played harder, grittier games and developed the ability to play at a high level as a matter of course.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:11 pm to linewar
I think you meant prorated.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 7:54 pm to linewar
They’d honestly be better served poaching as many players in the portal this upcoming year than paying that buyout. I’m talking like paying Drake Maye like 20 million to transfer in, Traveyon Henderson 5 million, etc.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:53 pm to Goldrush25
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They could offer the next coach a 5 year $5 million contract so they really aren’t spending much more
We will though. In order to prop Jimbo up we are going to have to spend big money on a new OC, new OL coach, and likely a new DC.
So that's 3 decent sized contracts we'd have to buy out of right off the bat plus whatever it costs to replace them. That doesn't even get into other personnel issues and players that may need "encouragement" to stick around.
Think of it this way. Jimbo is a Ranger Rover past it's warranty. When everything is in working order, it's pretty nice. But the problem is it's various parts are prone to breaking and are costly to fix once that warranty is out. Yeah you may have spent out the arse to get that Range Rover so you'd feel dumb getting rid of it for something else so soon but if you keep the thing you're always going to be having to fix some random shite and the cost will quickly add up to more than you'd have spend on a newer vehicle.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:59 pm to Dr RC
If I’m jumbo I take the 7 mil a year and leave A&M paying two coaches for the next decade.
Nobody wants him anymore so retire and enjoy life.
Nobody wants him anymore so retire and enjoy life.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:27 pm to linewar
They can fire him if they want to pay his $100 mil buyout.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:23 pm to Dr RC
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Think of it this way. Jimbo is a Ranger Rover past it's warranty. When everything is in working order, it's pretty nice. But the problem is it's various parts are prone to breaking and are costly to fix once that warranty is out. Yeah you may have spent out the arse to get that Range Rover so you'd feel dumb getting rid of it for something else so soon but if you keep the thing you're always going to be having to fix some random shite and the cost will quickly add up to more than you'd have spend on a newer vehicle.
Excellent allegory. "Death by a thousand cuts" comes to mind as well. They can pay at worst $86M + the first year of a new coaching staff's contracts and get a new car, or pay $86M + whatever they'll waste on a figurehead OC, OL coach, and potentially a new DC (after 2023) and still have to pony up for a new car.
Throw in the money for a new AD as well. No way that guy stays after carte blanche signing off on the 2020 extension.
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