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re: Who thinks Ensminger to OC is a good idea?

Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:00 pm to
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You think I'm in favor of Ensminger? Holy shite, dude. I'm about to throw up all over myself.


okay, you're off the list.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20304 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:02 pm to
Here's a question for those in the know:
What's Ensminger's offense, anyway?

Remember, when he took over in '16, they kept Cameron's playbook and ran his plays. Ensminger just took over calling the plays. So the team was actually running an offense they had been in for several years, and they knew those plays, had the timing down etc.

We've since put Canada's plays in, so guys like Brennan and Narcisse don't even know Cam's playbook. They're probably barely up to speed with Canada's. Narcisse hasn't even seen the field, and Brennan was spot duty with the old system.

You bring in something new again, and you have the same exact overall issue you had this season: young QBs trying to pick up a new system; Brennan might learn faster so he jumps back ahead of Narcisse (who might have been closing the gap).
And this time, no 5th yr QB with a bunch of starts under his belt here and elsewhere to help smooth the pain. No Guice as the default quick answer on the ground, no Chark as the easy first choice at WR.

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:03 pm to
As long as he and Jerry Sullivan are allowed to run the Wing T like it's spose to be run I am all in
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:04 pm to
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What's Ensminger's offense, anyway?


Not a clue. But then against, since our HC has no team identity, why should our OC?
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:06 pm to
Esminger is a "do just enough not to get fired" hire. LSU will never win anything with him except a meaningless bowl.

O's gameplan for next year:

Lose 4-6 games next year/point to last(this year 9 win season) year/talk about not missing out on this great recruiting class/maintaining continuity/getting a stay of execution only to be fired the very next year because he is no better than Miles in his latter years. In fact, O is probably worse because he didn't learn anything while at OM. He just took over a program in better shape.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90442 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:07 pm to
I think people are just aggravated that if he gets the job, it goes against everything O has said about hiring coordinators.

They hired from within and we all know how that went recently
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:08 pm to
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You were pumping Ensminger HARD. Liar. He was your first choice.


frick you. I think Ensminger did a GREAT job last year, and would be an excellent hire if we go in that direction. Most of you stargazers and hypeaholics look for the shiny objects, and don't consider risk such as the potential backlash from hiring Briles and Freeze -- both of whose offenses I like, but the risks are heavy. My personal favorites are Sark, Gilbert, Cumbie, but I stand by my previous comments that Ensminger is not a marquee hire, but proved that he has balance and knows how to get the ball to playmakers and could do a killer job.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10694 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:09 pm to
I’m just calling you out on your lies. It’s obvious he was always your #1.

ETA as for the rest of your post, I’ll answer with O’s own words (unless you’re him, in which case they are yours):

“We’re gonna go hire the best coordinators in the country, and I’m going to let them do their jobs.”
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:11 pm to
Penny packer loves S.E. As an O.C
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278152 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:12 pm to
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I think people are just aggravated that if he gets the job, it goes against everything O has said about hiring coordinators.




id have a bigger problem with if it had happened without looking into other guys. By all reports they are doing their due diligence
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
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stargazers

Do you think coaches are considered 'superstars' because of their name? their looks? their cool personality?

no, Its because they have proven to be a good coach. Im pretty sure we all get excited about coaches that we know are good, not because they are a 'star'.

Ensminger has proven jack shite, at least positively.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
He's obviously not my choice. But I'll still support the team. I'll at least give it a chance before I start melting....so not sure what category that puts me in.

Good news for O haters though, his seat becomes lava hot if Ensminger doesn't work out next year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
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Here's a question for those in the know: What's Ensminger's offense, anyway?


Don't know.

Don't think it matters.

I think O wants him because he will do what O says and be his vessel for that USC offense he's wants so much.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90442 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
I agree. I just hope they dont cross out Briles and Freeze because of fear of PR backlash considering Orgeron's past and his right hand man's past, which they seem to be completely cool with
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:16 pm to
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For instance I remember people laughing at coach O promoting Meatball Johnson. As small of a hire that was, it still drew criticism. All our fans looked at was his rasume’. A year later they realize he is now our best recruiter. How could they have possibly know that on paper? They couldn’t



This is a really bad comparison. There’s a difference in hiring an inexperienced guy for a position coach job. If it doesn’t work out move along but there’s upside there.

Steve is who he is at this point. He did a solid job as interim OC sure but the rest of his track record as an OC is mediocre at best. If you misfire here again, it’s basicaly over. That wasn’t the agreement when O took this job
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Qb pls
Member since Dec 2015
179 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:19 pm to
Lol OC McCarthyism
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:19 pm to
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I think Ensminger did a GREAT job last year,


Just curious why you think that. There were games where we racked up lots of yards but it was always against the lower rated defenses. In overall total offense we're actually ranked better this year. But really our offensive production has pretty much been the same for the last three years. What was so "great" and "killer"? Our red zone scoring was bad this year but it's not like we were great at it last year either. As a matter of fact the red zone play calling at the end of the Florida game sucked. What was great?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278152 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:19 pm to
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This is a really bad comparison. There’s a difference in hiring an inexperienced guy for a position coach job. If it doesn’t work out move along but there’s upside there.



Then use Matt Canada if you want. Or Cam Cameron even. How many people loved the Cameron hire? Just about everyone. We couldn't run him out of here fast enough.

Canada is polarizing as well, yet when he was hired just about everyone was on board.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:21 pm to
I like Ensminger, and believe that he can do a good job if that's where we go. I loathe Canada and have been consistent for 2/3 of the season with this position. Since I run large businesses around the world, I also know that motivation and building constituent excitement are equally important components of organizational (i.e. program) achievement. Having said this, bringing in a competent OC from the outside invigorates the base and helps to pacify dick heads like you. I also believe that Sark, Cumbie, Gilbert bring these elements in, and also provide some fresh ways to use our talent, and pump up fans ---- all vital elements of program management.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Since I run large businesses around the world, I


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