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When Les left Okie St to come to LSU

Posted on 12/12/07 at 7:49 am
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 12/12/07 at 7:49 am
does anyone know how he handled it? Was it classy ... did he say "I will be here next season"?

No reason .. just wondering.

This post was edited on 12/12/07 at 8:09 am
Posted by Chinese Bandit
Edmond, Ok
Member since Jan 2004
1543 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 7:51 am to
quote:

When Les left Co. St to come to LSU


He said "I hate it here in Colorado...I wish I was in Stillwater...but Baton rouge would be nice too."

Something to that effect
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10224 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 7:54 am to


He was asking for it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53960 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 7:55 am to
i'll tell you 1 thing, we didn't have boudreaux and thibodeaux in the back leading "GEAUX Tigers" chants in the back like the presser was a freakin pep rally
Posted by LSUfan1950
terrytown, la. 70056
Member since Sep 2003
4300 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:05 am to
Coach Miles did not leave Co. St. to come to LSU, it was Oklahoma State. The OSU Fans are still up set on how Coach Miles left. They are telling me that all the way up untill the time Coach Miles left OSU that he was telling them that he was staying at OSU and he was not talking to LSU anymore. I hope Coach Miles has learn his leason on how to go about addressing the issue, about staying at a place (LSU) or leaving to go to another School (Michigan).

Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:09 am to
Sorry .. brain freeze .. edit forthcoming.
Posted by BigMC
Member since Dec 2005
1846 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:15 am to
He said something along the lines of i am happy here this great place, etc.. He never said "I will not be the next LSU head coach" or "I will be here next". Okie St. fans felt they mislead him.
Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
3668 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:21 am to
I think he signed an extension and then left right after.

Not sure if he made comments about staying or not.
Posted by pkf4lsu
League City, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
4196 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:35 am to
Maybe he told Michigan he would be the Head Coach after the NC game.

What else would the guy say with just 3 weeks away from the game.

SMOKESCREEN?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87497 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Coach Miles did not leave Co. St. to come to LSU, it was Oklahoma State. The OSU Fans are still up set on how Coach Miles left. They are telling me that all the way up untill the time Coach Miles left OSU that he was telling them that he was staying at OSU and he was not talking to LSU anymore. I hope Coach Miles has learn his leason on how to go about addressing the issue, about staying at a place (LSU) or leaving to go to another School (Michigan).


negative

LSU asked for permission to talk to Miles, OSU refused and Miles got pissed. Miles through his agent contacted LSU and they started discussions. OSU got pissed at Miles, T Boone Pickens didnt like Miles (but loved Gundy) anyway and said let him go. Miles left for LSU and paid OSU his $1mm contract buyout.

the end
Posted by ToplessTenors4evuh
Member since Jan 2005
41253 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 8:44 am to
what he said.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:23 am to
Les did sign an extension, sometime within the month before he left for LSU, but apparently at the time he signed, the LSU job was not open because Saban didn't announce until Dec. 25.

LSU contacted Miles around December 26 or 27th. Miles never said anything other than I love it at OSU. He did not seek LSU out; LSU sought him out. He did not have an offer from LSU until Jan. 1 or Jan. 2. LSU spoke with him in San Antonio, where OSU was playing in the Alamo Bowl. He returned to Stillwater on Dec. 31, but he did not have an offer from LSU at that time. Once discussions began with LSU, he never denied interest in the LSU job nor affirmed his interest in the job during any press interviews or statements. He simply did not address questions about the issue. But because he did not have an offer before Jan. 1, and probably not formally until Jan. 2, there was nothing to say but what he said at the time.

But he never said "I am staying at OSU, I have no interest in the LSU job, I will be the coach at OSU next season." At least no press reports I can find from that time said so. They all indicated that he did not deny or affirm his interest in LSU.
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Les did sign an extension, sometime within the month before he left for LSU, but apparently at the time he signed, the LSU job was not open because Saban didn't announce until Dec. 25.

LSU contacted Miles around December 26 or 27th. Miles never said anything other than I love it at OSU. He did not seek LSU out; LSU sought him out. He did not have an offer from LSU until Jan. 1 or Jan. 2. LSU spoke with him in San Antonio, where OSU was playing in the Alamo Bowl. He returned to Stillwater on Dec. 31, but he did not have an offer from LSU at that time. Once discussions began with LSU, he never denied interest in the LSU job nor affirmed his interest in the job during any press interviews or statements. He simply did not address questions about the issue. But because he did not have an offer before Jan. 1, and probably not formally until Jan. 2, there was nothing to say but what he said at the time.

But he never said "I am staying at OSU, I have no interest in the LSU job, I will be the coach at OSU next season." At least no press reports I can find from that time said so. They all indicated that he did not deny or affirm his interest in LSU.



tigerinridgeland-
thanks for the recap...this is as good of an overview of that situation as I've seen.

Everyone wants to try and draw parallels between this current situation and the OSU situation and say they're exactly the same.

They're NOT! thanks for giving solid examples of the differences...

Posted by Tiger JED
Texas
Member since Jul 2005
1781 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:39 am to
quote:

we didn't have boudreaux and thibodeaux in the back leading "GEAUX Tigers" chants in the back like the presser was a freakin pep rally


Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36740 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:40 am to
Yeah, I agree ... I never really knew (or cared I guess) what happened on the other end and was just curious. Thanks to all.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87497 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:55 am to
keep in mind that T Boone Pickens did not like Miles (Miles was resistant to Pickens infleunce on the program) and T Boone Pickens loved Gundy (a HC he knew he could control with his wallet) so once Pickens said it was ok to let Miles go to LSU, as far as OSU was concerned it was over with anyway.

Pickens donated $70mm in 2003 but he donated $165mm on December 30, 2005 but it was placed in a hedge fund that Pickens controlled through his BP Capital Management.

quote:

On ESPN's Pardon the Interruption, Michael Wilbon said that after these gifts, Pickens "is now the owner of Oklahoma State athletics", and remarked that "no coach should dare run afoul of Pickens now...He's got everyone in Stillwater in his pocket, which is dangerous."


Read into that what you will
This post was edited on 12/12/07 at 12:17 pm
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 9:56 am to
T Boone Pickens wanted him fired and what Pickens wants, Pickens gets. He bankrolls the entire athletic program. Miles was smart and got out before Pickens screwed him.
Posted by DetroitTiger
Detroit City
Member since Dec 2007
85 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 10:32 am to
I think when Miles was at Okie S he was just talking to LSU by helping them in their search for a head coach.
Posted by LSUinOKC
Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2007
548 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 11:04 am to
each and every blessed day an ok st fan comes by my office and bitches about how awful les miles is.

can't wait to put my 2007 miles nc poster right next to my 2003 $aban nc poster (which also ticks off ou fans) in my office. will be sweet.

Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 12/12/07 at 11:30 am to
Moots, thanks for the compliment. I just went back and pulled up all the news reports regarding the situation from the time that Saban announced through the time the announcment of Miles' hiring. The record is plain. The simple truth is that Miles didn't make the kind of statements about staying at OSU and not going to LSU that he has made about LSU and Michigan. Apples and oranges. Sorry to some posters if that isn't compatible with the picture that they want to paint now or remember from back then, but just the simple truth.
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