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re: What's wrong with Mark Stoops?

Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:51 am to
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1511 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:51 am to
Apparently we were damn close to having Tom Herman, not that that would have worked out much better
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9929 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:51 am to
quote:

We hired Ed Orgeron.


And he won a national championship with arguably the greatest college team ever.


This actually helped LSU’s perception to coaches.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66148 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:51 am to
Can we hire an above avg coach for once?

This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 11:52 am
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7403 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:51 am to
What do you think is the deadline for Riley to give his decision?
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
5414 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:52 am to
Yep, that is my main issue with Mark Stoops - his mediocre to bad offenses - and I do not see him changing.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 11:53 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48741 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:54 am to
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Yep, that is my main issue with Mark Stoops - his mediocre to bad offenses - and I do not see him changing.

He runs more of a traditional, pro style offense too which LSU has been trying to get away from since Miles.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:54 am to
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frick off, this is not a program that hires Mark Stoops



LSU hired Orgeron, and before that Les who had comparable success at oSu.

LSU needs a culture change, right now they're soft, entitled and don't have accountability. Someone like Stoops, Aranda, or Matt Campbell are good guys to change that. They are used to taking over shite situations and weeding out the cancer.
Posted by brayo22
Deaths doorstep
Member since Oct 2007
174 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:56 am to
LINK

Remember this? Guess who the coach of that team was?

Nope, no way!
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22040 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Woodward must identify the next Nick Saban
so identify someone who isn't presently elite but has potential? good luck with that...
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:59 am to
Thats Mike Stoops, not Mark.

Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19100 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:17 pm to
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Taking over a perennial loser in the dumps and building a program is more impressive than taking over a program that's been consistently winning and not fricking it up.



He seems to be more comfortable at a program where he gets a bonus for winning 6 games in a season...
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:26 pm to
Matt Campbell would be a guy who’s done really well at a difficult place to win but probably wouldn’t wow anyone on the surface…yet I think if you look at context and his record of success, I think he’d blow up here
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4780 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:27 pm to
Big buyout
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26286 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:28 pm to
Offense consistently mediocre/bad

Decent/good coach, not an elite coach IMO

This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
18893 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:33 pm to
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He seems to be more comfortable at a program where he gets a bonus for winning 6 games in a season

Wouldn't you be?
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:36 pm to
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LSU, USC, and FL need to be torn down and rebuilt.


LSU won a national championship just 2 years ago, they do not need to be torn down and rebuilt. The right coaching hire, and we’re back to being competitive next season.
Posted by The Albatross
Member since Mar 2021
866 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:36 pm to
If Scott can do that, we all need to write him onto the ballots in 2024
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24458 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:39 pm to
You hire the person that’s going to give you the most stability especially in times like this. The best hire for this job from everything that’s been discuss so far is stoops. He brings stability. He brings the ability to build and rebuild a program. He brings the ability to be a consistent winner in a very difficult place to win at football. Everything about him speaks of Nick Saban 1999. He has been a very good defensive coordinator in his career. I’m sure he’ll hire a fine offensive coordinator. He is not less miles 2.0.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10273 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:43 pm to
I think you’re getting “big fish hire” confused with “limp fish hire”.
Posted by moon
Member since Dec 2010
2470 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:46 pm to
One of my friends was a coordinator under MS. He told me (in not so many words) that Stoops threw him under the bus to save his own job. Not surprising, but this is the type of person we are dealing with. MS has a tendancy to let his emotions cloud his judgement and he never wants to accept responsibility for his own mistakes. He's a good fit at a place like UK, but in no way do I want him running the show at LSU.
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