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Was Sark already coaching Bama?

Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:58 am
Booger scandal made me think about the so called "shadow" staff...

What are the rules?

This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12839 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:03 am to
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What are the rules?


That's what I wanna know. Locksley has been on the sideline all year.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48958 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:03 am to
That whole shadow staff stuff is bs

I have a friend in the AD over there and all the coaches coach. They know the NCAA won't investigate as long as they have Saban and making tons of money
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:08 am to
That's just not true.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50791 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:14 am to
It's called shadow for a reason . They're are no rules.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84866 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:38 am to
Just one of many highly questionable things Alabama gets away with. Everyone else just needs to start doing it too bc after the NCAA totally ignored Yahoo's investigation into Bama's cheating we shouldn't expect them to ever do anything about it.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:52 am to
Give credit to Saban for being smart enough to exploit the absence of rules there. Time to catch up
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Just one of many highly questionable things Alabama gets away with.


Good lord some of you are some tin foil hat wearing, mom's basement living, personal accountability avoiding sissies. It's pathetic.

If it was/is as bad as you guys claim (read: wish, bc it's the only thing he hat makes you feel better about it), don't you think other t and in SEC would turn Bama in? They'd do it en masse to force action against Bama. Why don't they do that I wonder? What about some former player who was "processes" and had an ax to grind. Wouldn't he have tons of evidence to share with an eager reporter? How about a rogue coach at another team who wants to drive them down? Couldn't he have complied evidence and make public?

If it was as bad as you want it to be it would be impossible to keep covered up, especially now when people are so desperate to bring an end to Bama.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:15 am to
explain to me how Locksley can coach on the sidelines, let alone participate in the coaching plan via headset
Posted by Kirk Herbstreit
in the outhouse
Member since Jan 2005
5817 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

If it was as bad as you want it to be it would be impossible to keep covered up, especially now when people are so desperate to bring an end to Bama.


They don't want to end up like Logan Young
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:31 am to
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explain to me how Locksley can coach on the sidelines, let alone participate in the coaching plan via headset

Where are all the images and video of him "coaching" on sidelines during game(s)? Where is all the coverage of cbs or ESPN discussing it? They would know (or at least be told by opposing team during their game prep) that it's a violation and they'd discuss in their broadcasts.

They are allowed to have headphones on and listen in. Just aren't allowed to communicate back. Not saying they don't, but presence of headsets on during games isn't against rules.

Damn y'all are some pathetic folks at times. Again, if it was as bad as you guys want to believe it is, it would be impossible to avoid.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:33 am to
Bama fan, don't get caught up in this bullshite. Some folks here just bash you guys for no reason.

So, what are your thoughts on Sark eating a booger on national tv ?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19068 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:36 am to
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don't you think other t and in SEC would turn Bama in?


You don't remember a couple yrs ago when Nick had too many GA's in the coaches box with radios and binoculars stealing signs/calls ( and yes there are rules for coach numbers and what they can/cant do). That was brought out and guess what. NCAA and SEC said shame on you wink wink and nothing was done about it.

Simple question with simple answer: was Sark coaching or spectating?
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Simple question with simple answer: was Sark coaching or spectating?


I wasn't in the box so I have no clue and neither do you. You want to assume the worst (cheater!) bc it makes it easier to cope with your team getting annually beaten by Bama. I'm fine saying I don't know if he was "coaching" or not, but I'm going to go with the theory that in today's digital age a guy can't pick his nose (literally) and get away with it, so I doubt they'd blatantly cheat and think they'll get away with it on TV. I know he's allowed to be where he was, wearing headset, and observe the action. I know he's not allowed to communicate with the on field staff (can talk to other analysts).
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19068 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

I wasn't in the box so I have no clue and neither do you. You want to assume the worst (cheater!) bc it makes it easier to cope with your team getting annually beaten by Bama.


No I don't. I just said I wondered the same thing. When you look at Bama's track record for stretching the rules like previous mentioned incident and the using of NFL practice squad/former players at practice which everyone else seemed to think was illegal or unethical I don't know why anyone would think Bama cheats.

You forget we had Saban for a while too. He will push the rules to the limit until he gets his hand slapped. Now people are afraid to call him on it.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Good lord some of you are some tin foil hat wearing, mom's basement living, personal accountability avoiding sissies. It's pathetic. If it was/is as bad as you guys claim (read: wish, bc it's the only thing he hat makes you feel better about it), don't you think other t and in SEC would turn Bama in? They'd do it en masse to force action against Bama. Why don't they do that I wonder? What about some former player who was "processes" and had an ax to grind. Wouldn't he have tons of evidence to share with an eager reporter? How about a rogue coach at another team who wants to drive them down? Couldn't he have complied evidence and make public? If it was as bad as you want it to be it would be impossible to keep covered up, especially now when people are so desperate to bring an end to Bama.


Except that you chromosome missing fricks paid a recruit $200k one time.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:52 am to
The rules don't apply to Saban.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

I know he's allowed to be where he was, wearing headset, and observe the action. I know he's not allowed to communicate with the on field staff (can talk to other analysts).

What's the point of having a booth full of "consultants" listening in? Seriously, it's a job they could do with game film, no need to even be there.
But if someone in the booth could communicate with the staff it would be fairly easy to do. Just walk into the booth, read the notes & pass it along.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12839 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Where are all the images and video of him "coaching" on sidelines during game(s)?


29:40 Locksley talking to Hurts after fumble

Plenty of other examples
Posted by champion2271
Destrehan, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
129 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 12:33 pm to
I don't know about calling the plays, but apparently was trying to "pick a winner" ROLL BOOGERS ROLL
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