re: Unless Coach O explodes... It's Herman, Jimbo, then CEO

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Jimbo Fisher is five years younger than Orgeron... younger than when Miles took over at LSU, and younger than when Saban took over at Alabama.

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What's age got to do with it? I'm talking about coaching success.

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Not that this idiotic statement needed a response.

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I know what you mean.

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I'm talking about coaching success.

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He made it to a NY6 game last season.

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Yeah, and he lost to a first-year coach at a mid-major. And that after losing to a 3-9 squad and struggling against two other 3-9 squads during the season. Finished the season 1-2 vs ranked opponents. At least OP got that part of the order right putting Herman ahead of Jimbo.

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So is this conclusion based on 5 games this season with an abysmal defense?

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No, it's based on the observation that Jimbo's teams consistently struggle against inferior competition.

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You're discounting so many other factors. I don't even feel like going any further, because you're purposely being obtuse in order to get your point across.

This is not a situation that can be simplified to only wins and losses. Holy shite.

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Have you even read my posts before that one? The "records" post was a response to the dipshits who keep clamoring about Jimbo's record. Their respective records don't mean much to me, as I thought I'd made pretty clear.

I am pretty much strictly looking at the way Jimbo's teams play and drawing the conclusion that they underperform an awful lot.

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I'm talking about coaching success over the last 10 games because I don't want to remember the days of O at Ole Miss

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If there is one coach that is guaranteed to not fail as hard as O at Ole Miss, it's O today.

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conveniently won't acknowledge Jimbo's phenomenal resume' of not only winning

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You guys seem to be basing his success on wins and losses, which I have been accused of doing and was told that's not the whole story.

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but also sending the likes of Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel to the NFL...in the 1st round.

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Is this the definition of coaching success now?

I mean, yes. It's a part of it, no doubt. A big one. QB development is a pretty big deal. Surely you aren't this daft??

Kork, seriously, did Jimbo do something to you?

QB development has been the worst part of Miles' tenure at LSU since Jimbo left...before that, Jimbo developed Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck, Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn...all vastly improved while at LSU.

At FSU, he coached up Ponder, Manuel and Winston...

His record is 71–16...as a head coach, he has a national title and a playoff berth. As OC at LSU, he had a national title, plus two SEC titles and another sec title game appearance.

Jimbo would be a home run hire...

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Using your own logic:

Jimbo is 2-0 as a coach against CEO.

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lolwut?

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Kork, seriously, did Jimbo do something to you?

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QB development has been the worst part of Miles' tenure at LSU since Jimbo left

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Yet our winning percentage with Jimbo and since Jimbo as of the end of 2015 is pretty much the same: 77.8% vs. 76.3%. Why does he get all the credit?

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Jimbo developed Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck, Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn...all vastly improved while at LSU.

At FSU, he coached up Ponder, Manuel and Winston...

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That's great, but why does the HC have to do that? Shouldn't he be more concerned with inconsistency and all of the playing from behind against inferior teams? Super job improving QB play, but what good does that do if you're losing to 3-9 teams?

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His record is 71–16...as a head coach

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Don't you think that record is inflated quite a bit by one guy? Not only did Winston single handedly win a lot of games, but he probably gave more motivation to the team than Jimbo did. Again, props to Jimbo for his part in coaching him up, but the dude was just a special college player.

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he has a national title and a playoff berth

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Winston, Winston, weak schedule, exposed by a good team.

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As OC at LSU, he had a national title, plus two SEC titles and another sec title game appearance.

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Let's not forget the SEC title plus national title the year after he hit the road. Does he get credit for that year, too? Sure seems like it around here.

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Jimbo would be a home run hire...

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Is it bad if I want LSU to hire him just so I can see the shitshow that results and be proven right?

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If Texas fires Strong then we are out of it with Herman.

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And you're wrong