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re: Unless Coach O explodes... It's Herman, Jimbo, then CEO
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:17 pm to Random LSU Hero
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:17 pm to Random LSU Hero
And the folks in charge of this thing seem to be just as reactionary as our fanbase. Going to be a long 2-3 months.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:48 pm to wildtigercat93
yea like how jimbo shite the bed twice against auburn and uf in 06 with the best talent in LSU history. He would be the worst choice.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:01 pm to TheTruthPolice
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He would be the worst choice.
Yeah don't hire the guy that has averaged 11 wins per as a head coach and put 4 QB's in the 1st rd of the draft. One of the things people fail to realize is FSU won't give Jimbo $$$ for assistants. Guess who was his DC the year he won the NC...Jeremy Pruitt who took a lateral move to GA and doubled his salary.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:35 pm to lsufan1971
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One of the things people fail to realize is FSU won't give Jimbo $$$ for assistants
Where are you guys getting this "info"? FSU has a top 10 staff budget. And IF he's not getting enough, whose fault is it that he can't work with the administration? Judging by Jimbo's salary, FSU wants to win.
Love the excuses though guys, keep them coming. Can't wait to see what you come up with when the Noles finish 7-5 this year.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:43 pm to Korkstand
Their highest assistant is paid 583k a year. They have 3 making that. Our DC makes twice what The Noles pay.
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The money for FSU’s assistants is much more spread out. While each of the six schools ahead of Florida State – LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson – each have at least one assistant making more than $1 million, the Seminoles’ highest paid assistants – DC Charles Kelly, co-OC/QB coach Randy Sanders and assistant head coach/OL coach Rick Trickett – each earn a base salary of $583,000.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:47 pm to lsufan1971
So now the story is Jimbo has the money for assistants, but he's not distributing it well enough to have a top staff? Or he's not working with the administration to get what he needs? Still sounds like Jimbo's fault.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:01 pm to Korkstand
Your hard on to name O head coach is preventing you from being objective. You think Jimbo sucks as a head coach and is a has been. I guess your entitled to your opinion.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:08 pm to lsufan1971
Until the last two years the ACC was a joke. Not counting 2013 those FSU teams would have been 4-4 in the SEC east. He might be fired real soon if keeps this season up.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:19 pm to lsufan1971
quote:I would love for O to get the job, but not just because I like him and he's from here. He just needs to keep doing what he's doing, saying what he's saying, and putting a product on the field that I enjoy watching. I think he will do a better job of that than Jimbo, partly because there is no one who wants the job more, and partly because Jimbo just doesn't look all that great.
Your hard on to name O head coach is preventing you from being objective.
quote:I never said he sucks, I'm just saying he's nowhere near as special as this board believes.
You think Jimbo sucks as a head coach and is a has been.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:25 pm to Korkstand
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Where are you guys getting this "info"? FSU has a top 10 staff budget.
and he consistently loses his best coaches to SEC schools that can double their salary. It's a fact.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:27 pm to Korkstand
You have been arguing for like three pages that he sucks - it doesn't matter if you never said it outright. He can't beat shitty teams, all his success is due to the fact that the acc is weak and he had Winston for three years.
- If LSU passes on Jimbo for some unknown it would be a terrible decision.
- If LSU passes on Jimbo for some unknown it would be a terrible decision.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:30 pm to HMTVBrian2
Please, tell me more about how Jimbo is failing to maintain a top 10 staff with top 10 money.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:Yes it matters, because I don't think he sucks. He just isn't great.
You have been arguing for like three pages that he sucks - it doesn't matter if you never said it outright.
quote:Do you have a rebuttal for this?
He can't beat shitty teams
quote:Winston only played for 2, but yeah they play a weak schedule every year. But again, rebuttal?
all his success is due to the fact that the acc is weak and he had Winston for three years.
quote:An 'unknown' like Herman at a power 5?
If LSU passes on Jimbo for some unknown it would be a terrible decision.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:42 pm to Korkstand
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An 'unknown' like Herman at a power 5?
Ya, like Herman. He is a really hot name with very high upside - so it is more worth the risk for him - and has two a lot of experience. But passing on Jimbo for nearly anyone else not named Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, a variety of NFL names, etc. would be a terrible decision.
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Do you have a rebuttal for this?
Show me what coaches not listed above don't lose to shitty teams. OSU lost to VaTech the year they won the CFP Championship i believe.
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Winston only played for 2, but yeah they play a weak schedule every year. But again, rebuttal?
Show me another coach not named Saban, Meyer, Jimbo, etc. that has a similar record against superior competition.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:02 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:I don't get the appeal of a "hot name" with "upside". For every hot name that works out, two more fizzle out.
Ya, like Herman. He is a really hot name with very high upside - so it is more worth the risk for him - and has two a lot of experience.
quote:It's just hilarious to me that people put Jimbo on a list with those other guys.
But passing on Jimbo for nearly anyone else not named Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, a variety of NFL names, etc. would be a terrible decision.
quote:Everybody loses to a shitty team occasionally, no doubt. But Jimbo has shown a very Miles-esque tendency to consistently struggle against inferior teams.
Show me what coaches not listed above don't lose to shitty teams. OSU lost to VaTech the year they won the CFP Championship i believe.
quote:I've said before in this thread, it's not about records. It's about how the teams play. Again, see Miles' record.
Show me another coach not named Saban, Meyer, Jimbo, etc. that has a similar record against superior competition.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:34 pm to Korkstand
Well I definitely wish you were in charge of the coach search for LSU.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:32 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I'm just trying to help you guys see the things you're looking past. If I see some questionable performances or decisions by O, I'll point them out, too. I just can't fault the guy for what he did a decade ago.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:35 pm to Korkstand
LSU fans believe that throwing money at coordinators means you automatically put together a top staff. They've seen it work well first hand the past few years
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:49 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Well I definitely wish you were in charge of the coach search for LSU
Yeah I bet you do! And thank God he is not!!! Jimbo is my number 1 choice. Contrary to some popular opinions there is some brain power at LSU and its not all Alleva's decision. He is answering to the money people. I like how LSU has gone about this so far. I am cautiously optimistic the powers that be will make a good decision between Jimbo, Herman or someone else.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:51 pm to TheOcean
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LSU fans believe that throwing money at coordinators means you automatically put together a top staff. They've seen it work well first hand the past few years
Our staff on defensive side has definitely not been the problem. The issue was at OC and CLM who had burnt out and could no longer adapt. What happened to Miles is the same thing that happened to Mack Brown and Fulmer. The ending was not nearly as good as the middle or the beginning.
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