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re: Unless Coach O explodes... It's Herman, Jimbo, then CEO
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:10 am to lsufan1971
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:10 am to lsufan1971
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Yeah don't hire the guy that has averaged 11 wins per as a head coach and put 4 QB's in the 1st rd of the draft. One of the things people fail to realize is FSU won't give Jimbo $$$ for assistants. Guess who was his DC the year he won the NC...Jeremy Pruitt who took a lateral move to GA and doubled his salary.
11 wins per year and he can coach QB's. Wow
How many wins did Miles average?
LSU really needs another Perrilloux. Throw a Winston in there too. All LSU would need is the arsonists.
Thank god he is a great family man. Oops, his wife won't come. She left. Jimbo can really judge that character.
Remember, the character flaws of Perrilloux and Winston were know while he recruited them.
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:06 am to D500MAG
Wow at this horrible thread.
I go back to, why has no other school been looking at O for HC. Syracuse turned him down.
People would seriously take a head coach with a 10-25 recrord vs. a NC winning coach for 3 years ago...
What an odd fan base we have. If these folks get thier way, we're going to be begging for Les miles to coming back lol.
I go back to, why has no other school been looking at O for HC. Syracuse turned him down.
People would seriously take a head coach with a 10-25 recrord vs. a NC winning coach for 3 years ago...
What an odd fan base we have. If these folks get thier way, we're going to be begging for Les miles to coming back lol.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:49 am to Random LSU Hero
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Powers that be feel that we have a distinct talent advantage in those games
This tells me that there's much more wrong with the program than just the coaching.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:46 am to SportTiger1
quote:Because he is viewed as a huge risk (and rightfully so), and the people making decisions with other people's money can't take that risk. The money needs to see good numbers.
I go back to, why has no other school been looking at O for HC. Syracuse turned him down.
quote:First, his record as a head coach is 17-27. I don't know why people only count his record at Ole Miss. Who cares about the 'interim' tag? Second, Jimbo had 1.9 great seasons with a great quarterback. Chizik won a NC with a great quarterback. Does anybody want him? He had to coach against good teams, at least.
People would seriously take a head coach with a 10-25 recrord vs. a NC winning coach for 3 years ago...
quote:The irony is you don't see just how similar Jimbo is to Miles.
If these folks get thier way, we're going to be begging for Les miles to coming back lol.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:02 pm to Korkstand
Good sir.
Everyone who has opened the thread has seen your opinion. You are just not very convincing. As a general rule if a person's posts are really frequent and most people think you are a little bonkers on the subject - perhaps it is time to take a breather and step away from the keyboard.
Everyone who has opened the thread has seen your opinion. You are just not very convincing. As a general rule if a person's posts are really frequent and most people think you are a little bonkers on the subject - perhaps it is time to take a breather and step away from the keyboard.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:07 pm to D500MAG
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Thank god he is a great family man. Oops, his wife won't come. She left.
Umm, her being a whore doesn't make him a bad husband....
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:09 pm to molsusports
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Good sir.
Everyone who has opened the thread has seen your opinion. You are just not very convincing. As a general rule if a person's posts are really frequent and most people think you are a little bonkers on the subject - perhaps it is time to take a breather and step away from the keyboard.
As a general rule, at least he hashes out his positions and doesn't just take pot shots at random.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:20 pm to molsusports
quote:Afternoon to you.
Good sir.
quote:I'm sorry, but my poor posting performance of late is not my fault. If you ask my friends, they'll tell you that my assistants are doing a piss-poor job of making me look good.
Everyone who has opened the thread has seen your opinion. You are just not very convincing. As a general rule if a person's posts are really frequent and most people think you are a little bonkers on the subject - perhaps it is time to take a breather and step away from the keyboard.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:27 pm to Korkstand
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I'm sorry, but my poor posting performance of late is not my fault
It's okay. Previous failures arent a problem. All you have to do is stand at a podium and tell us that you've learned your lesson and will be better the next time.
Do that, and you're good.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:29 pm to SportTiger1
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It's okay. Previous failures arent a problem. All you have to do is stand at a podium and tell us that you've learned your lesson and will be better the next time.
Do that, and you're good.
That and the whole setting records on offense with the same guys that could barely get a first down the week before.....
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:32 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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That and the whole setting records on offense with the same guys that could barely get a first down the week before.....
I wasn't aware that O coached offense.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:36 pm to SportTiger1
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I wasn't aware that O coached offense.
You're right. He shouldn't get any credit at all. He only described what he wanted to run prior to the game...and then we ran that during the game. He only gave his coaches more authority to do what they wanted with schemes and personnel.
Yeah he had nothing to do with the offense.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:37 pm to SportTiger1
quote:Well, if LSU's offensive success under O isn't O's doing, and if FSU's defensive woes under Jimbo aren't Jimbo's doing... why the hell do you guys give a shite who is HC?
I wasn't aware that O coached offense.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:45 pm to Korkstand
NSIS
The top notch coaches (Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops, Fisher, and perhaps Herman) in college generally are exceptional coordinators prior to being promoted to HC- and generally continue to control what falls under their expertise.
The top notch coaches (Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops, Fisher, and perhaps Herman) in college generally are exceptional coordinators prior to being promoted to HC- and generally continue to control what falls under their expertise.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:53 pm to molsusports
quote:Very serious.
NSIS
quote:Sure, but the HC's job is to manage the team. So it's funny to me that Jimbo supporters dismiss a record-breaking offensive performance under O and give him no credit, and then don't fault Jimbo at all for their defensive issues. But you can bet your arse that if FSU had a solid defense that it would be because Jimbo worked so hard to get the right guy hired, and if O's offense tanked against Missouri that it would be all his fault.
The top notch coaches (Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops, Fisher, and perhaps Herman) in college generally are exceptional coordinators prior to being promoted to HC- and generally continue to control what falls under their expertise.
So hopefully you can see why I'm not sure if you guys are serious.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:02 pm to Korkstand
Do you ever recall the credit for the Spurrier Gator teams defense being laid at the feet of the HBC? It seems to me the majority of even casual fans understand which head coaches deserve credit for what part of their team's performance.
You can even trace it after the fact when you see a Stoops or Richt strike out on their own as HC - while their former teams excellence in that area takes a hit.
You can even trace it after the fact when you see a Stoops or Richt strike out on their own as HC - while their former teams excellence in that area takes a hit.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:07 pm to molsusports
Hm yeah I get it, Jimbo can't be faulted for his defense because that's not his specialty, and neither is it his specialty to hire the right guys for the job.
Does that sum up the board's feelings on Jimbo?
Does that sum up the board's feelings on Jimbo?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:01 pm to Korkstand
I like Jimbo as the next HC if we miss on Herman, but we shouldn't be held hostage and have to break the bank for him. He is no more a sure fire hire than coach O or Fedora or Mullen or any of the next tier after Herman. Herman could be the next Saban or Meyer or Harbaugh or Pete Carrol. He has a great shot, if he came to LSU, of being in that group. But all things being equal, I would take Jimbo, based on what he has done at Florida State, before the rest the second tier. But he isn't worth 6 or 7 million a year (or whatever amount the highest paid coaches get these days), which is what he is going to want to leave Florida St. There really is no guarantee that he is better than Coach O or Fedora or a number of other coaches, and I am not convinced that he is. It is just going to look really bad when we make him the highest paid coach in college football and he turns out to be a bust.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:09 pm to Korkstand
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Hm yeah I get it, Jimbo can't be faulted for his defense because that's not his specialty, and neither is it his specialty to hire the right guys for the job. Does that sum up the board's feelings on Jimbo?
yes they like to pick and chose a lot. Coach O completely transforms the team in a week to the point that it doesn't even look like the same team out there, but gets no credit. Very weird. Sure the assistant coachs get credit as well, but no one can deny that coach O is very involved in what is going on with this team.
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