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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:33 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:33 am to
Your arguing with a guy who said our defense let us down against troy and ND


Troy mind you, we had zero points at halftime and 7 points thru 3 quarters

And ND mind you, we held their offense to 3 points at half time and only gave up 21.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:34 am to
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that's the big thing. either we were rebuilding and we should have taken lumps with Brennan or we were set and roll with Etling
you play to win today. I saw very little out of Brennan that screamed he was ready to start out side of a rumor that Canada wanted him to start (which has no substantiation that I’m aware of but is of course 100% believed as gospel).

No head coach would say ‘frick it let’s just lose 6 or 7 games this year and play the player that hasn’t earned it so we’ll be ready next year.’ That’s a giant frick you to the seniors
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:34 am to
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i think the biggest issue is that if your argument is true, then starting Etling was a disaster


As I was saying to another poster, if one of the sources of O's rift with Canada really was snaps for Brennan then he's dumber than I ever dreamed possible


Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:35 am to
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Your arguing with a guy who said our defense let us down against troy
so it’s your opinion that the defense played lights out vs Troy? I’m not absolving the offense of blame but the entire team looked like shite vs MSU and Troy. Syracuse too we just happened to win that one.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:36 am to
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so it’s your opinion that the defense played lights out vs Troy? I’m not absolving the offense of blame but the entire team looked like shite vs MSU and Troy. Syracuse too we just happened to win that one.


That's not what I'm saying at all. Lester is the one absolving O and the offense of guilt for that game because the defense "let them down"
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:37 am to
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I disagree, they latched onto Miles because of personality & early winning ways. It wasn’t recruiting



I remember even ardently anti-Miles posters expressing some reservations about letting him go considering some of the recruits we had on deck
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:38 am to
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you play to win today.

not if you're rebuilding

then you're playing to build for the future b/c you can't "win today"

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I saw very little out of Brennan that screamed he was ready to start

the point is to give him time in a pressure-free environment to grow for 2018

now, we have a completely inexperienced QB in 2018 and nothing in 2017 to show for that loss of development. we probably won't even finish the year ranked. we literally have nothing to celebrate in the 2017 season

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No head coach would say ‘frick it let’s just lose 6 or 7 games this year and play the player that hasn’t earned it so we’ll be ready next year.’ That’s a giant frick you to the seniors

well he gave them the middle finger anyway so your own argument works against your point
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:39 am to
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I remember even ardently anti-Miles posters expressing some reservations about letting him go considering some of the recruits we had on deck

thank you

even most of the anti-Miles guys were hoping we'd get in somebody to salvage the class

very few people were like me who didn't' give a flying frick about a single class
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:39 am to
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if one of the sources of O's rift with Canada really was snaps for Brennan
this just screams of a ranter rumor turned “fact”.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:40 am to
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HIS RECRUITING ISNT THAT GOOD


In 1 calendar year he’s rebuilt both lines & a depleted LB unit.

LSU is gonna have a top 10 class in a down year in the state.

He’s already making great headway into a loaded 2019 clsss


What is your view of it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:40 am to
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this just screams of a ranter rumor turned “fact”.

i've heard it from people i trust

and it makes sense given O's mental deficiencies, insecurity about the job, and loyalty to those who allowed him to pull off this ruse

same reason why Ensminger is an option at OC and why he keeps trying to get coaches he's worked with before
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:41 am to
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the point is to give him time in a pressure-free environment to grow for 2018

pressure free? Tiger Stadium when your true freshman QB throws 3 INTs just so he can “grow”? He would have been eaten alive.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:42 am to
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i've heard it from people i trust

I stand by what I said.
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:42 am to
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this just screams of a ranter rumor turned “fact”.


Quite possibly. I'm not an insider and will never claim to be. But it was thrown around pretty often.

And before the rift became common knowledge Brennan was seeing the field
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:42 am to
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pressure free? Tiger Stadium when your true freshman QB throws 3 INTs just so he can “grow”? He would have been eaten alive.

not if we admitted this is a rebuilding year

like UGA last year or Bama in 2007

results-oriented thinking fails and only randomly works in short bursts when luck hits

process-oriented thinking is how you sustain success
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:42 am to
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why he keeps trying to get coaches he's worked with before
virtually every head coach does this.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:44 am to
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not if we admitted this is a rebuilding year

if O sat down and told the fans strap in we’re gonna suck this year I’m thinking that would not have gone over very well.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:44 am to
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remember even ardently anti-Miles posters expressing some reservations about letting him go considering some of the recruits we had on deck



Nah it was always his record they cited. I know sfp remembers that thread Speedy started that went on for like 6 years with his updates record:

That and their affinity for Miles the person.

Recruiting was never a hang up until it was clear he wasn’t going to be around
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:44 am to
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virtually every head coach does this.

and O is a failure of a head coach who should realize he's reaching down a barrel that's led to his failures

if he doesn't admit this, he's going to lead LSU into darkness that will take years to fix
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:44 am to
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if O sat down and told the fans strap in we’re gonna suck this year I’m thinking that would not have gone over very well.

so he puts his own personal PR ahead of the team? i'm not shocked

sounds just like what a person like O would do
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