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CharlesLSU
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Member since Jan 2007
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The optics on the DC hire look rough

The Saints counter offer was strong......I get that. The Freeman jump to ND stings, but much of it was about his personality being drawn north of the Mason Dixon line.

Issue is the lack of understanding of those two items above and not actively working other angles. Hell, maybe they have and they aren’t Allevaesk.....


CatfishJohn
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Member since Jun 2020
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Issue is Orgeron telling the media that he's honed in on a specific guy...twice...before it's done


FIFY

That makes the optics 1000x worse.


jonboy
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Member since Sep 2003
6918 posts

The issue is the play-by-play leaks. Ed needs to have a solid hire sewn up in 48 hours to fix the optics.


Tshiz
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Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
5745 posts

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Issue is Orgeron telling the media that he's honed in on a specific guy...twice...before it's done


This. Keep your mouth shut until it’s done. Does he not realize he is doing all the leveraging for the guy to get more money? I mean negotiating 101


CatfishJohn
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Member since Jun 2020
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This. Keep your mouth shut until it’s done. Does he not realize he is doing all the leveraging for the guy to get more money? I mean negotiating 101



Orgeron has the IQ of a fence post.


da prophet
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hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
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Issue is Orgeron telling the media that he's honed in on a specific guy...twice...before it's done


IMO this makes Payton look worse. Why does he wait until the eleventh hour to offer Nielsen a big raise and promotion. It’s like he really wanted to screw LSU. It’s been known for weeks that LSU really wanted Nielsen.


lsuhunt555
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Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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And if he hires someone who puts a good product on the field this fall...no one will remember any of this.


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Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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The issue is the play-by-play leaks. Ed needs to have a solid hire sewn up in 48 hours to fix the optics.


he didn't leak anything
NFL reporters were the ones with the scoop


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timlan2057
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In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
13091 posts

Yeah, this is a clown show and a cluster frick. And Scott Woodward is as much or more to blame than Ed. I thought when we hired him we’d be immune from terrible optics that make the LSU brand look foolish and incompetent. Shit, you’d think Joe Alleva was still here.
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CatfishJohn
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IMO this makes Payton look worse. Why does he wait until the eleventh hour to offer Nielsen a big raise and promotion. It’s like he really wanted to screw LSU. It’s been known for weeks that LSU really wanted Nielsen.



Maybe he was a bit pre-occupied trying to beat Tom Brady


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PUB
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That might be getting generous.


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314stunna
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NYC
Member since Aug 2015
679 posts

O has always said too much to the media in my opinion. We don't have to always show our cards.


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Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
8772 posts

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IMO this makes Payton look worse. Why does he wait until the eleventh hour to offer Nielsen a big raise and promotion.


How? They just found out Campbell was being hired by Detroit as HC opening up the Asst HC position. You want them to offer Nielsen a position that does not exist?


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RussellSheppardsPie
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Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
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bit pre-occupied trying to beat Tom Brady


How’d that work out for him? Matter of fact how’d that work out for him the last 3 years of HOME playoff games? frick the Aints, I’m officially done with them...Peyton and Loomis are both slimy cock smokers who knew full well that Nielsen was LSU’s priority for DC, and at the 11th hour pulled this shite. I wish the Bensons would have moved their sorry asses to SanAnto when they had the chance.


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Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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And Scott Woodward is as much or more to blame than Ed. I thought when we hired him we’d be immune from terrible optics that make the LSU brand look foolish and incompetent. Shit, you’d think Joe Alleva was still here.


Woodward is the most overrated AD in the history of ADs. People literally give him way to much credit without much success to show for it. He hired Sark in UW and then Petersen. Other than selling the farm to get Jimbo with a ridiculous contract, what has he done?

Again, he is not that great.


RussellSheppardsPie
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literally


No.


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TigerNE
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Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1029 posts

Zach! Come Back! It's OK. You can wear Moo State gear on the sideline!
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CatfishJohn
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2020
8634 posts

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He hired Sark in UW and then Petersen. Other than selling the farm to get Jimbo with a ridiculous contract, what has he done?



So 3 really strong hires?

A&M boosters gave him a blank check and said "Get Jimbo" and he delivered. How is that a bad thing? They finished top 5 this year


SouthEZtiger
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Member since Oct 2007
451 posts

At this point I’d be more worried about a ridiculous contract to the next DC. Sure, pay them well. Actually over pay per year. But easy on the guarantee buyouts/contract length. Don’t make a desperation decision


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Bjorn Cyborg
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Member since Sep 2016
20910 posts

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The issue is the play-by-play leaks. Ed needs to have a solid hire sewn up in 48 hours to fix the optics.


He's not running for president. He needs a solid defensive coordinator. The timing isn't relevant. Hire the right guy, not matter how long it takes. When we are in the middle of the SEC schedule next season, no one will care if the hire was made Jan. 1 or Feb 1.


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